The Great Christian Civil War and Donald Trump.

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Can a Holy Spirit led Christian come to think that Satan is Messiah?

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  2. No....

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  3. The being of light of NDE fame = Yeshua -Jesus.

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  4. The being of light of NDE fame = Satan

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If.... President Donald Trump is somehow guided to place Mr. Mitt Romney,
    a Latter Day Saint into a high position such as Secretary of State..... then this
    move will offend a pretty serious segment of USA Christians.


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    If a male being with powers that involved magical healing and such showed up most of the people of faith would follow them like a hungry dog chases a meat bone tossed near it, that is why Atheists are better armed we would think and question this being and I would consider it a alien hoax before I would think this was some Messiah. Face it with advanced enough technology would appear to have powers to far less advanced people and they could claim the planet with one being and minimal support.

    A thought experiment say your a MD and go back in time to say Ancient times and with full medical equipment and a generator and body armor and a couple modern weapons for self-defense and healed Alexander the Great when he was dying and said they were sent by Apollo to heal him you know that man or woman would be deemed a divine healer and agent of Apollo and temples would have been raised in every city Alexander walked through laurels and wealth falling to this person. And using super weapons called a gun he or he killed a critic with the divine weapons of the gods. You know it would be likely religious people would fall for the same trick using far more powerful technology.
     
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    I met one near death experiencer who during her NDE was shown a version of herself
    about five centuries in the future.....(I assume in another time line/ Multiverse).... and she reports
    that one of her missions is to assist us to make the transition over to a better world with less suffering
    and bloodshed this time around.

    I quote her in posts #53-57 here:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rencies-finance-films-address-problems-6.html
     
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    I take it rather seriously that a number of people are so desperate to
    see the Washington SWAMP NOT DRAINED.....
    that they might well resort to drastic measures to
    mess things up so that President Donald Trump has
    trouble coming into power over the federal government in Washington.

    This is one of the reasons why I love the idea of his appointing Mr. Mitt Romney to the
    office of Secretary of State. This will significantly unite the G. O. P.

    http://elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=17003

    "The Eagle Has Landed: God is Awakening Governmental Prophetic Authority"

     
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    In the time period of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus Rabbinic scholars would be correct to
    think of Rabbi Yeshua as something of an anti-David!

    Progressive revelation of the plans of G-d cause the Moshiach calling of 27 to 31 C. E. to look
    like the opposite of what King David and King Solomon, (both anointed kings / Moshiach's of Israel)
    accomplkshed.
     
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    Good question.....
    I agree with you that President Obama is in an interesting position to play out quite a role
    in events surrounding Jerusalem.........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=288721&page=27&p=1066904999#post1066904999

    Thread: Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?



    If you would like more information related to this just Google..."Israel fifteen year old near death experience"

    and combine what you find there with.......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html
    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?
    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


    Obama’s Brother in Support of Third Temple Built in Jerusalem

    …
    endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/

    Then think in terms of a modern enactment that is more so along the line of Yom Kippur.....
    not Passover..... as the Passion was.
     
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    Does that mean that you do NOT like the idea of
    churches taking the initiative to print up church currencies in
    order to attempt to improve the lives of church members as well as to
    assist in financing an outreach to the communities in which those churches
    are located?

    Pastor Rick Joyner..... page 38.... The Vision....."The Lord is now preparing courageous leaders who will be willing to fight a spiritual civil war in order to set men free. The main issue, as in the American Civill War, will be slavery versus freedom. The secondary issue, which will be the primary issue for some, will be money. "


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ations-should-print-their-own-currencies.html

    Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.
     
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    It means that Rick Joyner is a heretic or a con man or both.
     
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    Or he was given a visionary dream that
    we may eventually find out is on a par with
    the visionary dream given to Cephas / Peter in Acts 10?

    There is really no middle ground with Pastor Rick Joyner......
    either he is being powerfully guided by the Holy Spirit
    that would be a fulfillment of Joel 2 or.............
    he is playing around with darkness of one type or another........

    He certainly is not lukewarm / Laodicean.....
    he is either a major example of the Philadelphian attitude and giftings for our time or.........
    you could be right!?

    How many years...... out of the last 4000 years.....
    has Jerusalem been a great place to go to receive
    some sort of "deliverance?"



    Joel 2:28

    And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

    And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

    And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

    .....


    Joel 2:32

    Yes... this does also mean at the Bride of Messiah the Church......
    but isn't there also a time when feeble residents of Jerusalem are comparable to
    King David?



    Zechariah 12:8

    "In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them."
     
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    For the record,
    I personally have fallen into heresies of one type or another over these last
    40 plus years of my walk as a Christian.......

    I was really wrapped up the "soul sleep" heresy from 1972 or 1973 until 1990.....


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html#a05c

     
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    Well butter my buns and call me a biscuit. Who knew?
     
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    ....And many false prophets shall arise, and deceive many...Matt 24:26
     
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    Beginning especially in 1990 I
    prayed to be corrected.... .and shown where I was in error....
    so that I could avoid giving people some of the terrible types of
    advice and teachings on doctrine that I had seen done.

    It really does help to pray to be corrected and shown the areas where we are
    off track!

    Pastor Rick Joyner asked for correction before being given his visionary dream back in
    1995.

    ... Each level of correction that Pastor Rick got into in the section....
    The Judgment Seat of Christ.....

    got more and more so to the heart of his own pride
    and selfishness.

    http://www.heavennet.net/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm


     
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    But.... all the angels and technologically advanced aliens
    that are on the side of the enemies of Israel are well behind
    the angels and aliens on the side of the Jewish people.

    Some very unusual trends are taking place at this time that will soon
    transform the Middle East political, economic, educational and
    even theological atmosphere.




    Christian Organizations Call for 3-Day Esther Fast to Unite With Israel
    Read more at https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/...esther-fast-unity-israel/#r0Xb4kFidWhTlAcJ.99
     
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    Yes.....
    and I have to admit that the possibility of my being seriously deceived and that I am passing on
    relatively false ideas is a possibility that does indeed concern me.
     
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    Here is an interesting theory on why President Trump won the election.....

    Trump Upset Victory Divinely Sent to Begin Messianic Process: Rabbis

     
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    And... will Mr. Mitt Romney play out a role
    that will perfectly balance President Trump's
    weaknesses?


    Mitt Romney for national leader of the Democratic Party?
     
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    I honestly would not trade those years in the Worldwide Church of God for a different
    possible way to spend nearly twenty years but......
    I have to admit that some of the most valuable lessons learned there
    was how NOT to do church?!
     
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    .... Pastor Rick Joyner:
    I now have the high estimate of the number of USA Dollars that could potentially hit the market soon if China, several Islamic nations, Russia and some other nations opposed to America decide that they must devalue the Dollar in order to introduce a new world currency.

    The high estimate is up to 4.3 TRILLION USD!

    Scroll down to post #18 here to see my source:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...weimar-republic-inflation-i-ever-read.502018/


    There is good news though......
    G-d wishes to bless Trump supporters and land in the countryside is about to rise in value:

    Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-fed-policy-pay-off-usa-national-debt.489825/
     
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    Possibly....... or his critics may suffer from some of the same stuff that the Scribes and Pharisees had going on two millennia ago.
     
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    In a way the Great Christian Civil War began with
    Cephas / Peter and Judas Didymus Thomas, (Doubting Thomas)

    www.ThomasTwin.com/
     
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    One question for the "near death" people. is there an existence BEFORE life? A "Beforelife" equivalent to the "Afterlife' you all seem so concerned over?
     
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    Yes... and there seems to be almost no limit on how far back in time the soul or over soul can be taken........

    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/pre-existence.html
     
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    Helen Wambach Ph. D. limited her first book
    to material collected from regressing her 1088 volunteers merely
    4000 years in time........
    She was too wise to go back to the time of a worldwide flood.......
    she would have grievously offended her target market.....
     

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