The Great Disappearing Act: Where Did the Flu Outbreaks Go?

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Not everyone's immune system is "so good", and even "so good" immune systems do better with antibiotic assistance in some cases...
     
  2. truth and justice

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    The same applies for the Covid virus
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    There’s some debate about whether COVID is only a respiratory condition. it has long range complications, many caused by thrombosis.
     
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    Enjoy your isolation.
     
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    You don't say? Point is testing positive for COVID post mortum in the majority of cases will be indicative of cause and effect. Yes there will be exceptions, just like someone can actually survive being shot and then die of something else - in rare circumstances.

    Now in most of the COVID deaths (most not all) currently being recorded the victims present with significant symptoms prior to death unlike the young and healthy who shrug off the infection in the majority of cases. Most of the victims also have underlying conditions (old age, severe heart disease, chronic inflammatory conditions, asthma etc) which both put them at greater risk (in some cases their immune systems are already partly compromised to start with ). The thing is - catching the virus puts stress on the already compromised and weakened systems of the victims. So for example the stress of the illness then kicks of a fatal heart attack etc.

    So yes there will be cases where someone dies and weeks/ months later dies with traces of COVID in their system and COVID will not have been the cause. But those kind of deaths would have occurred anyway with or without COVID existing and we are seeing a clear spike in the overall number of deaths amongst people with respiratory issues relating to COVID.

    So knock 10-20% of the total figures if you makes you feel better (and I doubt the false positive death rate is actually anything like 10%) but honesty how much difference would doing so really make now? given the death toll is now so high. Not much.
     
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    Not even trying to pay attention, are you?
     
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    You've proven you don't.


    Hence why you should consider evidence, which you refuse to do.


    There are BOTH bacteriological infections AND viral infections that can cause pneumonia. Please read. Stop refusing to consider reality just because it offends Trump worship.
     
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    Rockwell's site has been rated as a questionable source by Media Bias/Fact Check with extreme bias and mixed factual rating.
     
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    Surprise!
    R0 for flu 1.4
    Covid 2.5
     
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    Try going back and reading what I said, the statement is very simple. Dont play this silly game, I really dont have time for this silliness. I caught a mess of channel cats today that wont skin themselves.
     
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    Media Bias/Fact Check has its own biases:
    https://www.politifactbias.com/2017/10/can-you-trust-what-media-biasfact-check.html

    A medical journalist friend of mine also covered them. Here's her report on them:
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    ...Media Bias/Fact Check has long been launching bogus attacks. And in addition, the Media Bias/Fact Check website says it has “chosen the IFCN [International Fact Checking Network] as our standard fact-checkers because they all abide by the same rules. This is important, as the standards are high.”

    Note, however, that IFCN is funded by the likes of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation... At 21:57 in the video, and in this link in the show notes, of The Corbett Report’s June 19 podcast episode exposing the glaring conflicts of interest in the fact-checking industry, host James Corbett reveals that IFCN’s major funders include George Soros-backed organizations and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
    **

    Source: https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/06/fact-checking-a-fact-checker-a-response-to-healthfeedback-org/

    For those who aren't too up on The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, here is an article that they may find interesting:
    https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/06/fabricating-a-pandemic-who-could-organize-it-and-why/
     
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    Certainly, just like gunshot victims die of blood loss and organ damage. The gunshot itself had nothing to do with it. Can't imagine why folks get so up in arms about this. Guns don't kill people, blood loss and organ damage do.
     
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    Your post has nothing to do with your claim that anyone said "if mask stop the spread of covid and the flu"

    Your links even states "Remember that a mask is not 100% effective....." and “Wearing a mask will likely decrease transmission of the flu as well,”
     
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    You said no one said wearing a mask stops the spread of both. Is the flu also spread airborne, yes or no?
     
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    Stop means 100% effective. No one said that a mask stops any virus
     
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    Are the goal post heavy?
     
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    Are you denying you wrote ", if mask stop the spread of covid and the flu...."?
     

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