The Guardian view on a Brexit

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Which 24 have not been elect ?

 

And ?

Its about mutual agreements. The UK presented a very firm stance what it wants and they just to not agree with the very firm stance the EU voted on.
The word for you is voted on.

Your Singapore fantasy will never happen, Canada only if the UK is willing to accept EU regulations, if not good by

 

Good bye indeed, I don't think you understand what the EU is asking of the UK and what the EU isn't asking of Canada; it seems the EU decided that UK must follow EU rules while others like Japan and Canada don't have to; this is a red line with UK and Brexit and the idea of leaving the EU in general (that once you're out you still have to abide by EU rules).

If UK accepts EU regulations then that wouldn't be a Canada Style Deal. UK will never accept EU regulations however because if we did, what would be the point of Brexit? That's why no matter what happens, if the EU comes to its senses or not, the UK and the powers that be here know better than to continue following the EU rule book.
UK's left the EU, and UK's set to leave the ECHR too; Russia and Turkey are under the ECHR, but because UK's leaving the ECHR, doesn't mean UK's leaving human rights, only a moron would think that; UK will still have human rights.

UK's line is; The UK isn't going to follow EU rules no more than the UK expects EU to follow UK rules; if Canada can have a deal with the EU without following EU rules, then so can the UK, if no deal; if not; then UK will just undercut the EU like our name is Singapore; It's up to the EU what sort of country it wants to have on its doorstep, one like Canada, or one like Singapore.

Geopolitics doesn't mean the UK being so close to the EU UK have to follow the EU, that's only EU recklessness to drive UK away early and discrimination not treating the UK like Canada that says that; However, on the flip side; Geopolitics says the EU's so close to the UK, UK's survival depends on divergence and competition; that's geopolitics; so it seems like the EU can treat the UK like it was like Canada or like Singapore; just don't treat the UK like it's the EU.

 

Any deal with the EU that means UK follows EU rules could jeopardize a UK/US trade deal; so it's not going to happen.

If the UK is forced to chose EU or US, then it's a clear choice for the US, even if it doesn't seem to make the UK as much money, it's still better than being tied to the EU.

 

I read this as 'no border, no brexit'.

 

Brexit's been done; so it's too late to be saying no Brexit.

 

I disagree that brexit has been done for the reasons I have stated.
The way I define brexit is according to the voting slip:

 

I remember voting Remain; but Leave won; and Est 23:00 31st January 2020 (GMT/UK Time), United Kingdom left the EU and entered into a transitional period with the EU, not of the EU.

 

A transitional period is not leaving according to the voting slip.
It is a half way house of some kind.

 

I don't think you understand what the transitional period is; For the uninitiated; it's a tool implemented to ease the transition from being in the EU to leaving the EU; It's a mechanism thought up to ease the transition; but Brexit happened and UK's not in the EU.

Proof the UK isn't in the EU; UK and US are starting to talk trade deal; this is something France and Germany can't do because they're still in the EU; UK and US talking bilateral trade wouldn't be happening if the UK was still in the EU.
France and EU can't talk trade deal either neither can Germany and EU because they're the EU; UK and EU are talking deal because UK isn't in the EU and this is something that wouldn't be happening if the UK was still in the EU however the EU's not taking UK seriously when it treats the UK like it's still in the EU in the UK EU negotiations demanding that the UK has to and take EU rules for a deal with the EU.

The argument is; the EU doesn't ask Canada or Japan to follow EU rules for a trade deal and UK has left the bloc so UK's not going to accept a deal with the EU that states UK has to follow EU rules because that wouldn't make sense from a Brexit P.O.V.

"What's the point of Brexit if UK still has to follow EU rules and regulation?"

This simple notion is lost on the EU who feel the political declaration is the end of the matter; however, the end of the matter from the UK side is let's have a Canada Style Deal or a WTO/Australia no deal 'deal' with the EU.

 

I can see your focus is on the financials, you may have noticed mine has been about the Irish border, and how it relates to the word 'leave'.
If the border stays completely open the doublethink will be 'staying joined is leaving' ....possibly.
The transitional period is also there with an expectation that the border conundrum will be solved by those who voted leave, not conveniently ignored.

 

If the border is needed, it is needed, the UK can't rejoin the EU without applying to, and the UK's not planning on doing this.
UK shouldn't even have to pay for EU's external borders.
UK voted to leave the EU, not break up.
Remember, UK chose to leave the EU, and since Brexit happened, the UK's been out of the EU.
Keeping parts of the UK under EU control isn't what people voted for.

I don't think Ireland or the EU should decide what happens over a part of the UK and if Brexit effects Ireland for still being in the EU, then that's what Brexit does; it's not down to the UK to care about Irish fisherman or Irish economies because it's a foreign country, we're were allowed to leave the EU, everyone is allowed to leave the EU and the EU or any other member shouldn't blackmail anyone for choosing to.

Why should a foreign country control part of the UK to please itself when it'll annoy Northern Ireland who wish to not be treated different than the rest of the country?

 

I noticed your diatribe of no border or no Brexit; so based on your logic, it means it's border given Brexit happened.

 

The border between the EU and the UK in Ireland is as open as travelling between Yorkshire and Lancashire.
That does not constitute leaving unless people are kidding themselves.
Your (honest) attitude expressed above is not untypical, but the UK signed up to the international treaty that is the GFA (ratified by a referendum) which seems under threat now.
Terrorism is close, has never gone away, is caused by evil people of all persuasions and this unresolved border will cause it's return as warned by the PSNI.