The hate industry, Islam and Islamophobia

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by stan1990, Dec 14, 2018.

?

Do you agree with the opinions written in this thread?

Poll closed Jan 13, 2019.
  1. Yes

    50.0%
  2. No

    50.0%
  1. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Messages:
    9,310
    Likes Received:
    4,139
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And?

    Do you hear rabbi's calling for "Revert or Die"? "Kill the infidels wherever you find them"?.

    The 2 Abrahamic religions both had reformation.

    Where is the reformation for Islam?

    There will be none. The Leadership will kill anyone who tries.
     
  2. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,651
    Likes Received:
    13,757
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ignorance plus hatred turns people into idiots.
     
  3. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, I just want it clear that Israel IS at war, regardless of the exact enumeration of who they are at war with - or why.

    BUT, as long as you bring it up:

    Curt Schilling was fired by ESPN for his statements about transgender persons.

    He does have a history of anti-Muslim comments. It's not like this was a one time mistake.

    ESPN has a right to retain who they will, and I'm not even slightly surprised that they chose not to tolerate hate speech. They are interested in a wide family oriented audience.

    I don't see any indication that Schilling even bothered to apologize, walk back his comments or otherwise show efforts to conform to what one would consider legitimate sports analysis/comment.

    He even went so far as accusing people of not having acceptance and tolerance of his intolerance!! When people go there, you know there isn't a lot of hope.
     
    chris155au likes this.
  4. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who is it that you are claiming is their "Leadership"?

    Are you considering tiny terrorist groups that are hard to even find as the "Leadership"?

    Are you considering Iran's Shiite leadership as the "Leadership" even though Shia make up only 10% of Islam?
     
  5. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,670
    Likes Received:
    1,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My mistake. Any opinion on Curt Schilling being SUSPENDED for comparing radical Islam to Nazism?
     
  6. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,670
    Likes Received:
    1,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Are you saying that he was engaging in hatred by comparing radical Islam to Nazism?
     
  7. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Messages:
    9,310
    Likes Received:
    4,139
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes. That 10% holds the rest in check, so therefore they are the real leaders..

    I should have called them "enforcers" though I guess.
     
  8. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't know what he said about Islam.

    BUT, I'm not even slightly surprised that ESPN is not interested in discussions of Nazism, being disparaging of any minority group in the US, etc.

    If he pointed out that Israel is running a harsh open air prison of nearly 2 million hopeless and destitute people in Gaza, I'd expect that would be problematic for ESPN, too. Or, if he decided to attack Trump or Biden, or whatever.
     
  9. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Cite please.
     
  10. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Messages:
    9,310
    Likes Received:
    4,139
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    LMAO!

    The fact that ZERO members are leading a reformation of Islam, is ALL the proof I need.
     
  11. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,670
    Likes Received:
    1,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I just told you what he said. He compared radical Islam to Nazism. Do you think that's okay?
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2019
    Just_a_Citizen likes this.
  12. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What do you think that proves?
     
  13. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's not OK from the point of view of ESPN selling it's product.

    I think comparisons to Nazism are pretty much always nonsense. First of all, they are made in a flip, offhand manner with no real analysis of exactly what is meant by the two and what behavior is being compared. We tend to ignore motivations, have simplistic views concerning solutions and tend to think that a good dose of the US military will solve something and that the carnage of our response will be forgiven at once. We don't know what is important about our OWN government (as show recently) and can't be depended on to have good opinions of what is necessary in other governments where we have far less information.

    We in the US tend to make some fairly large mistakes about the ME.

    I don't tune into ESPN sports to hear some asshat expound on Nazis and radicals.
     
  14. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Proof of what?
     
  15. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,670
    Likes Received:
    1,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you're guessing that he was fired for talking about a non-sports issue?
     
  16. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,670
    Likes Received:
    1,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What do you mean?
     
  17. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,670
    Likes Received:
    1,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But Hamas is NOT waging a war on Israel?
     
  18. FivepointFive

    FivepointFive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Messages:
    2,403
    Likes Received:
    525
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Is getting bad right now as we type..

    Jared Kushner Peace Plan in action.. more war
     
    WillReadmore likes this.
  19. FivepointFive

    FivepointFive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Messages:
    2,403
    Likes Received:
    525
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Babble On.. Voices

     
  20. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    43,499
    Likes Received:
    7,339
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure it does - get a grip. How many examples would you like ?

    You can start here :)

     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2019
  21. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2013
    Messages:
    31,799
    Likes Received:
    6,338
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Very clearly Gaza lost the war a long, long time ago.

    The catch is that Israel, who has unquestionably won, won't stop or negotiate, but continues to wage war on Gaza.

    The leadership of Gaza attempted to join the unity government designed by Abbas wherein they agreed to independence through negotiation only. That would have put Hamas out of business, as they would no longer be funded by border crossing revenue and would no longer be significant in aiding the desperate population of Gaza. Leadership in Gaza is in an incredibly weak position and determined that being represented by the unity government would be better for the people of Gaza, as Abbas has show progress in reducing violence and in appealing to an international audience.

    Netanyahu prevented the unity government from happening.
     
  22. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2012
    Messages:
    27,557
    Likes Received:
    3,079
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Only fools stand around and let other psychos kill them.
     
  23. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,670
    Likes Received:
    1,772
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And yet rockets still fly into Israel...
     
  24. kiwimac

    kiwimac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2008
    Messages:
    1,012
    Likes Received:
    208
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Look at that; a post in which almost every word is wrong.
     
  25. Paul7

    Paul7 Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    13,419
    Likes Received:
    9,371
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just to address one falsehood in your rant, it is a myth that Islam produced major scientific advancements. See http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

    Muslims are 20% of the world population, yet have won only six Nobel Prizes, and one went to the terrorists Arafat. Jews are .2% of the worlds population and have won 148.

    Islam is a retarding influence.
     

Share This Page