The Hijacking of the 2020 Election and the Hate America Strategy

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sure, google mediabiasfactcheck The Wonkette

    or mediabiasfactcheck huffington Post

    mediabiasfactcheck daily kos

    If the factual rating is below mixed, I disregard it as a source

    if it is mixed, then the bias meter can't be too far from the center.

    If the factual rating is higher, then I will allow more bias, because there
    what happens is that as long as reportage is factual ( mostly ) bias goes
    to story selection, not content of story.

    You have to use your brains when using MBFC site.

    MBFC has a list of sites that are in the center or close to it with factual higher than mixed.
    Just source those and none others and no one will object to your source.

    If the bias meter is near the center, or slightly off to the left or fight, then I'll source it if it is higher than mixed. If it is right at mixed, then it depends on who the author is, and his or her history of reliability, their qualifications, etc.

    If it is lower than mixed, it's a totally unreliable source.
     
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  2. FreshAir

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    "The Hijacking of the 2020 Election and the Hate America Strategy"

    don't worry, Trump won't succeed in hijacking the election
     
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    Media Bias Fact Check is, like Snopes, 1-2 people and with an obvious agenda. Interestingly, it's the LW who constantly cites to "fact checkers" and no one else.

    "LW Authoritarian Personality?" Why yes, that's exactly what they are, projections of constant fabrications here and elsewhere of "RW Authoritarian Personality" notwithstanding. To find what progressives/statists/LW actually are, just apply the "cheating spouse decoder ring" they are whatever they accuse you of being. So please do cite to more and more discredited "fact checking" sites, Authoritarian Personality LW, maybe toss in some references to overpaid bureaucra... erm... "experts" while you are at it.

    To the topic, anyone who needs "proof" of either of the legs of the thread title simply needs to peruse what LW say here on this forum, have said for years, Re "Russian meddling in U.S. elections," on the stolen elections front, and the litany of gloom and doom Complex LIE NARRATIVES on poverty, wealth inequality, climate, pollution, especially COVID1984 of late... other "very bad things" in the U.S they spout HOURLY on this forum...

    ... but ONLY against their opposition.

    Disgustingly inconsistent and dishonest people, that's how you know they are mostly paid shills, no sincere person could possibly be that logically inconsistent, the cognitive dissonance would drive them insane.
     
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  4. RodB

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    No thanks. You don't accept credible nonpartisan substantiation.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for establishing that you have NO credible substantiation for your utterly BOGUS allegation therefore your own credibility has been harmed as a result.

    Sad!
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Blah, blah, blah.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Nice summation of ALL of your BOGUS allegations.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you refuse to acknowledge the "resist" movement that typified Democrats after day one of his term. "peach foty-fi" was their mantra. Takes a lot of nerve to say Trump was divisive.
     
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    Daniel, I think you have a point there. It's like a bunch of spoiled brats that have been handed liberty in Christmas Wrap. The "elite" know that and promise that government can make everyday Christmas.
     
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    Is Dominion part of DHS, Barr, FBI?
    Why haven't you reached out to Barr with all the evidence you seem to have regarding widespread voter fraud?
     
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    Nah, racism has nothing to do with Trump. Nothing at all.

    "We ain't stoopid in Jaw-ja."
     
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    Perfect retort Boychyko , perfect!
     
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    Those were women demonstrating not Democrats! LOL
     
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  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    It takes a lot of blindness not to see that he is the most divisive president in history.
     
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    I have
    You need to find a new gig. Identity politics doesn't suit you well. (never did). Trump increased his support with minorities in spite of media antics to portray him as racist. Besides, he has a history contrary to crap you spew.
    https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-met-rosa-parks-muhammad-ali-photo/
     
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    Of course you would say that. It's the mantra you've learned. Nice dodge of the fact the Democrat Party launched a campaign before he was in office to delegitimize his election. Talk about "willful blindness!"
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats ARE women......or whatever they want to self identify as at any given time.
     
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    No, not exactly. Some Democrats are women, the rest men just as it is wil Republicans. The Revolution or whatever it of 2017 in reaction to the election of the Trumpocity was was started by women and to the best of my knowledge the participants were primarily women.

    As a matter of fact I recall that some of the organizers were recycled women's libbers.
     
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    It's not a mantra. It's what I have observed.

    There is a path of logic from which one can derive the notion his presidency is not legitimate, owing to the following facts;

    1. He won by 77,000 votes in three swing states ( put a pin on that, for a moment ). Trump and Kris Kobach, partnering with 29 red states, those states submitted their voter registration rolls to Kobach's program called 'interstate crosscheck', for the ostensible purpose of ridding rolls of duplicate names with the logic that duplicate names 'prove' that someone want to vote more than once in different states. The names are cross referenced accross states and BOTH are deleted. The problem is, many common names, more concentrated in poor neighborhoods, names like Lincoln, Washington, mostly blacks ( because early on many blacks picked names of presidents, or their slave owners picked them ) so the program is structurally biased against blacks, Additionally, the software was deleting names that had different middle names, Jr vs Sr not distinguished, etc. For example, there are far more than two Michael Jacksons. MOreover, evidence of two same names is not evidence of fraud because people move and rarely contact the voting office to have their name removed from the state they left. The program was so faulty, lawsuits were filed and a federal judge ordered the discontinuance of the program in 2017. Investigative reporter Greg Palast ( The Guardian ) uncovered the fact that in 2016, the program purged 1.1 million names, mostly blacks, In the swing states, the purged count exceeded Trump's ballots some 10 fold. Many, who show up to vote and find out their name is not listed, are given provisional ballots, which are considered as 'spoiled' ballots if not in the registry ( because they were purged), and not counted. Among other things, Jill Stein, in her lawsuit, wanted those provisional ballots counted but she was not allowed because of 'lack of standing'. Those ballots, if counted, would have given Hillary a victory. The scheme is gone into in great detail and illuminated in Palast's documentary entitled, 'The Best Democracy Money Can Buy".

    2. Russian interference, given that Trump's win was by a small margin, could conceivably tip the scales just enough to win.

    3. Comey's egregious blunder of announcing Hillary was being investigated, just a week before the election, and he didn't mention that Trump was also being investigated, could have tipped the scales just enough that Trump won by his small margin.

    4. Trump's obsequious behavior to Russia is a legitimate cause of suspicion, as in 'what is trump hiding'?

    5. Trump failed to provide his tax returns, in defiance of tradition, which is a legitimate cause for suspicion' what it trump hiding'.

    6. Trump's failure to put his finances in a blind trust.


    These facts can easily give many the SENTIMENT that his presidency was not legitimate, this sentiment is arrived at via the OPENING of one's eyes, NOT closing them.
     
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    You lost me when you brought race into the picture.....no need to read further. Your fingers should have taken a rest.
     
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    Those are not labeled as extreme, 2 are close bot no cigar.
     
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    I find it incredible that those who most fervently believe in a wide spread conspiracy involving THOUSANDS of democrats, republicans and independents working in co-ordination to fix the vote count, have no friggin clue how the election system works. They immediately dismiss the federal government agency tasked with securing the election- an agency with a trump appointed republican at its head categorically confirming the integrity of the system

    This agency has been mandated to ensure election integrity. They easily dispel the most egregious bullshit but of course true believers will not even read it to inform themselves



    https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/1...ture-government-coordinating-council-election

    https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol

    https://www.cisa.gov/government-facilities-election-infrastructure-charters-and-membership



    But trump and guiliani know better.
     
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    good stuff thanks
     
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