The History of White Supremacy in America

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  1. Guno

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    Excellent synopsis of the real history of the united states from its founding to the present day

    Another good book is by Howard zinn, The People's History of the United States
    Great that these events and real history is being decimated as the narrative is no long controlled by the former majority


    "The Civil War ended legal white supremacy, but it continued to be enforced by Southern leaders and white militant groups, most famously the KKK. Black people were kept under control by extralegal violence, including lynchings.

    With the reimposition of white supremacy in the South, the original Klan faded away. In the early 20th century, however, it was reborn as a Protestant nativist movement. The new KKK was anti-black but also targeted Catholics and Jews, part of a long anti-immigrant tradition in America. The second Klan was a fad that attracted millions of supporters and then rapidly faded away in the 1930s.

    The third Klan rose during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and '60s. Whites, angry at attempts to end segregation, again put on white hoods and joined local officials – often they were the local officials – in attacking Civil Rights workers. Blacks and whites were targeted for beatings, bombings and assassination. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 put the final legal nails in segregation. Support for the Klan dwindled.

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    Violence defines the far right
    Along with preaching white supremacist ideas, the far right has been incredibly violent. One of the perversities of American history is that there has been more fear of the left (the Black Panthers, the Weather Underground) than the far more violent right (the Order, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Militia movement). From the assassination of radio host Alan Berg to the Oklahoma City bombing, which killed 168 innocents, the right is more willing to use violence, and more murderous when they do so. Recent right-wing mass murder episodes include Wade Michael Page's 2012 attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, which killed six; Frazier Glen Miller's 2014 targeting of Jewish community center in Kansas, which killed three; and Jared and Amanda Miller's 2014 murder spree in Las Vegas, which killed five (including themselves)."


    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-history-of-white-supremacy-in-america-w498334
     
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    So blacks have better quality of life in a white supremacist nation than in black majority /run nations?
     
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    Its always sad to read the history of the Democrat party. Its more sad to see creepy liberals attempting to place the left's endless hate upon the right...
     
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    Really thought provoking ...
     
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    What is "white supremacy" exactly?
     
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    So why do blacks have higher standards of living in white supremacist societies than their native garbage dumps?
     
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    Howard Zinn was a radical leftist clown. I wouldn't call interpreting events through a Marxist lens as a "people's history."

    He once stupidly proclaimed that we could "empty the jails" if we ended capitalism because capitalism causes crime.
     
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    I always thought it was a tasteless type of cake frosting....
     
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    Saltless Crackers?
     
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    Odd. No answer.
     
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    Many have learned , if you don't feed the trolls they'll go away !!!
     
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    Leave it to Rolling Stoner to not do their homework.

    Those two were Occupy movement supporters and viewed cops as Nazis which is why they threw a Swastika flag on the dead officers.
     
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    Supporters of Nordicism consider the "Nordic peoples" to be a superior race. By the early 19th century, white supremacy was attached to emerging theories of racial hierarchy. The German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer attributed civilisational primacy to the white race:

    The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmans, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

    The swastika (as a character 卐 or 卍) is an ancient religious icon used in the Indian subcontinent, East Asia and Southeast Asia, where it has been and remains a sacred symbol of spiritual principles in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. In the Western world, it was historically a symbol of auspiciousness and good luck, but in the 1930s, it became the main feature of Nazi symbolism as an emblem of Aryan race identity, and as a result, it has become stigmatized in the West by association with ideas of racism, hatred, and mass murder.


    What other 'groups of persons' are out there besides the Hindu, or Egyptian or White persons?

    Asians might be considered to be part of the Hindu line. Blacks might be considered to be part of the Egyptian line. And Middle Eastern and other Europeans might be considered to be of the White line. Middle Eastern is part of the 'White' section in the racial censuses of ethnicity and race.

    All others would fall under the 'mixed' races section..

    Mixing a White with a Black or mixing a Black with a Hindu or mixing a Hindu with a White, etc.... The children would be of 'mixed' heritages belonging to 1 or 2 of the three available options.


    The Flood story tells how Noah and his three sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, together with their wives, were saved from the Deluge to repopulate the Earth.

    • Shem's name means "name" or "fame". Through his descendant, Eber, Shem became the ancestor of Abraham and thus the Israelites. In the view of some 17th-century European scholars (e.g., John Webb), the people of China, eastern Persia and "the Indias" descended from Shem. Both Webb and the French Jesuits belonging to the Figurist school (late 17th-early 18th century) went even further, identifying the legendary Emperor Yao of Chinese history with Noah himself.
    • Ham is Noah’s youngest son Template:Genesis 9:18-25 the forefather of Cush, Egypt, and Put, and of Canaan, whose lands include portions of Africa, Arabia, Syria-Palestine and Mesopotamia. The etymology of his name is uncertain; some scholars have linked it to terms connected with divinity, but a divine or semi-divine status for Ham is unlikely.
    • Japheth is the oldest son. His name is associated with the mythological Greek Titan Iapetos, and his sons include Javan, the Greek-speaking cities of Ionia. In Genesis 9:27 it forms a pun with the Hebrew root yph: "May God make room [the hiphil of the yph root] for Japheth, that he may live in Shem's tents and Canaan may be his slave."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generations_of_Noah


    The Nations Descending from Ham:
    First on the list, as being the darkest, is Cush or Ethiopia (Genesis 10:6), after which comes Mitsrayim, or Egypt, then PuT or Libyia, and Canaan last. The sons or descendants of each of these are then taken in turn, and it is noteworthy that some of them, like the Ethiopians and the Canaanites, spoke Semitic, and not Hamitic, languages--Seba (if connected with the Sabeans), Havilah (Yemen), and Sheba, whose queen visited Solomon. Professor Sayce, moreover, has pointed out that Caphtor is the original home of the Phoenicians, who spoke a Semitic language.

    The explanation of this probably is that other tongues were forced upon these nationalities in consequence of their migrations, or because they fell under the dominion of nationalities alien to them. The non-Sem Babylonians, described as descendants of Nimrod (Merodach), as is well known, spoke Sumerian, and adopted Semitic Babylonian only on account of mingling with the Semites whom they found there.

    Another explanation is that the nationalities described as Hamitic--a parallel to those of the Semitic section--were so called because they fell under Egyptian dominion. This would make the original Hamitic race to have been Egyptian and account for Ham as a (poetical) designation of that nationality. Professor F. L. Griffith has pointed out that the Egyptian Priapic god of Panopolis (Akhmim), sometimes called Menu, but also apparently known as Khem, may have been identified with the ancestor of the Hamitic race--he was worshipped from the coast of the Red Sea to Coptos, and must have been well known to Egypt's eastern neighbors. He regards the characteristics of Menu as being in accord with the shamelessness of Ham as recorded in Genesis 9:20.


    (26 Nations came out of Shem):
    Shem, who is called "the father of all the children of Eber," was born when Noah had attained the age of 500 years (Genesis 5:32). Though married at the time of the Flood, Shem was then childless. Aided by Japheth, he covered the nakedness of their father, which Ham, the youngest brother, had revealed to them; but unlike the last, Shem and Japheth, in their filial piety, approached their father walking backward, in order not to look upon him. Two years after the Flood, Shem being then 100 years old, his son Arpachshad was born (Genesis 11:10), and was followed by further sons and daughters during the remaining 500 years which preceded Shem's death.

    Noah's prophetic blessing, on awakening from his wine, may be regarded as having been fulfilled in his descendants, who occupied Syria (Aramaic), Palestine (Canaan), Chaldea (Arpachshad), Assyria (Asshur), part of Persia (Elam), and Arabia (Joktan). In the first three of these, as well as in Elam, Canaanites had settled (if not in the other districts mentioned), but Shemites ruled, at some time or other, over the Canaanites, and Canaan thus became "his servant" (Genesis 9:25,26). The tablets found in Cappadocia seem to show that Shemites (Assyrians) had settled in that district also, but this was apparently an unimportant colony. Though designated sons of Shem, some of his descendants (e.g. the Elamites) did not speak a Semitic language, while other nationalities, not his descendants (e.g. the Canaanites), did.


    (14 Nations came out of Japheth):
    The immediate descendants of Japheth were seven in number, and are represented by the nations designated Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Mesech, and Tiras; or, roughly, the Armenians, Lydians, Medes, Greeks, Tibarenians, and Moschians, the last, Tiras, remaining still obscure. The sons of Gomer (Ashkenaz, Riphath and Togarmah) were all settled in the West Asian tract; while the sons of Javan (Elisah, Tarshish, Kittim and Dodanim or Rodanim) occupied the Mediterranean coast and the adjacent islands.

    http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGham.htm
     
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    I cant wait until the Rolling Stone story about rape on college csnpuses.


    And in case that wasnt clear, Rolling Stone is a garbage source and anything they publish can be immediately discounted.
     
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    Good one !
     
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    For a thread that pretends to be about the “real history of the United States,” it starts at the civil war, only touches a small portion of our history, and only lends criticism to “white” supremacy. Doesn’t really meet the sniff test on “real history of the US.”
     
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    What's trolling with that question? White supremacy benefits blacks.
     
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    Like Ken Hamblin, the unassuming colored guy on the radio used to say, "Pick a better country."
     
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    A 10 layer cake, coconut, with
    White Supremacist frosting and filling, quite tasteless and lard is chiefly the main ingredient.

    Very unhealthy and a tendency, to those that partake of it, to suffer diabetic complications.
     
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    Why do you think white supremacists in the US created the best society in the world?
     
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    They took credit for it.
    Others, minorities actually did the work uncredited as is oftentimes the prevalent custom in such matters.
     
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    What did non-whites do to make the US the greatest society in the world?
     
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    Many of the things thieves and glory hounds took credit for.
     
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    Like write the constitution?
     
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    The Constitution as great as it is, is not the only great work.
    True substance is of fewest words, and the truly wise among us may discern an ocean from a drop of water, or great wisdom from a comic strip or bubblegum card.
     

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