The Holocaust

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  1. John Sholtes

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    It is no secret that The Fuhrer used jews in what is known as 'Hitler's jewish Army' -the majority held low level functionary jobs in the military. Milch was the one jew that held a rather high post.

    Milch was one of the most devious jews. He helped Germany lose the war. One can only speculate as to why there was even a "jewish Army" in the Reich; however, it does prove that 'the holocaust' as described, ie, that The Fuhrer and his command were determined to holocaust every jew in Germany. It's a thing that Holocaustians try to play down.

    If ever an error in judgment was made by The Reich, it was this inclusion of jews; especially in the military. The number of which range between 1200 jews - and, the jews inflated number of up to 10,000 jewish soldiers.

    I do not fully understand why any jews at all were allowed in the military. They aren't known for their military prowess, even today in israel.

    I googled Milch and found numerous accounts of his being a jew. The jewish sources [ie, all of google it seems] seem oddly proud on the one hand, in a sort of 'AHAH, see!!" pride; whilst alternately condemning Milch for having served for helping to kill them.

    I do not fully understand why The Reich bothered with these jews at all, perhaps each jew selected for service was either cannon fodder for the Russian Front, or, like Milch, was percieved to have some degree of intelligence helpful to the war. Were I around then, and had I a say in the matter, these jews would have been placed in a work camp - where they could be put to better use. I would have trusted no jew to serve in the Reich, especially as soldiers.
     
  2. ThirdTerm

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    [video=youtube;Avaud6bJBqI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avaud6bJBqI[/video]
     
  3. l4zarus

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    The word you are looking for is "genocide". A holocaust can be genocide. The Holocaust definitely was genocide. But not all genocides are holocausts.
     
  4. Karma Mechanic

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    ACtually the term Shoah is accepted by many Jews and is the Hebrew word for catastrophe
     
  5. Scott

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    Here's some stuff I've looked at.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1owF0vgnw&bpctr=1364068873
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wSlYYGt7gM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMYAjyW1OFU

    I've got some other stuff I'll post later.

    It seems that the position of holocaust deniers is being misrepresented in the press. They don't exactly deny that it happened. They say it was exaggerated and distorted.

    This is one of the few sites that has a holocaust section in its forum.
    http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=ed6381cc88fee4cfb1e6d7e493b64247&board=65.0

    Websites that delve too deeply into the holocaust issue can be blocked in some European countries. Some threads I've started on it on other forums have been closed. I was banned from the infowars forum for starting a thread in which I stated that I wasn't declaring a position and that I just wanted to discuss the evidence. In the banning notice they called me a fascist.
     
  6. MaxxMurxx

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    It is certainly known to you that the Nazis promoted the extermination of "unworthy life" at home using the headline: "We are not alone!" followed by the translation of the 1927 US Supreme Court Decision Buck vs. Bell: It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world if, instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. ...Three generations of imbeciles are enough.
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0274_0200_ZO.html

    It also is certainly common knowledge that the US "Journal of Psychiatry" in 1942 claimed to euthanize "psychic abnormal" children and also claimed positive feelings of parents of those children towards their children to be an own psychiatric disease.

    http://www.brown.uk.com/teaching/HEST5001/joseph.pdf

    The Rockefeller foundation had founded and was only sponsor of the German Institute for Anthropology, Heredity and Eugenics, leader Ottmar von Verschuer, author of the German Race Hygiene legislation. Verschuer informed the sponsor, that the doctor student "Josef Mengele had joined the SS to continue his twin research in Auschwitz". German race hygiene legislation had been published by Hitler himself in the US Journal "Eugenics Weekly" 5 months before its publication in Germany, receiving frenetic applause by US Eugenicists. The SS then was invited to the 1934 meeting of the American Public Health Association on Pasadena/California to present German Race Hygiene. The leading US Eugenicist Charles M. Goethe after returing from Germany in 1934 wrote to the President of the American "Human Betterment Foundation: "You will be interested to know that your work has played a powerful part in shaping the opinions of the group of intellectuals who are behind Hitler in this epoch-making program. Everywhere I sensed that their opinions have been tremendously stimulated by American thought . . . I want you, my dear friend, to carry this thought with you for the rest of your life, that you have really jolted into action a great government of 60 million people."

    http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php#page-4

    In the 30s race hygiene (Eugenics) with 8 : 9 minority of votes failed to receive an own Nobel Prize. With one vote having been different and a 9 : 8 outcome Hitler probably would have received one. It is up to you to answer how the German people can be condemned for something the US Supreme Court had authorized, German research received international sponsorship and merits for and leading international scientific journals were supporting. This will not be the case today and was not the case in 1933.
     
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    Yeah its insane...
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    German Prisoners of War were treated more or less humanely by the Americans. Quite a lot of them were shipped to the US and were in camps there. So are you arguing that the US exterminated German POW's and conducted medical experiments on them?
     
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    Most contributions to the internet have "unknown authors", people like in this forum using pseudonyms. Another site containing asdditional material gives a reference to Texe Marrs as the author of "Eisenhower's Holocaust". In the second link more free downloads of Baque's "Other losses" (different formats) are available.
    http://socioecohistory.wordpress.co...locaust-his-slaughter-of-1-7-million-germans/
    https://archive.org/details/Other_Losses
     
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    There is absolutely 0 evidence in the first article that U.S. policies killed 1 German POW let alone 1.7 million, the claim made in the article that Eisenhower issued orders and directives denying German POW's shelter, medicine, and/or proper rations is not backed with a citation to a primary source thus it is impossible for anyone to properly validate said claim.

    As to your 2nd source it is a 325 page novel, would care to copy/paste the relevant portions which you believe validate your claim?
     
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    In a disgusting attempt to cover up the crimes of the Nazis.
     
  18. Scott

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    At the 21.20 time mark of this video...

    "Churchill's War" by David Irving
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qAdJTHQysI


    ...David Irving defends the British empire. It's a little unclear but he's ignoring the evil of imperialism. What do the objective posters here think? Why would he say this? He's got to understand imperialism. Maybe he was under pressure.
     
  19. DrewBedson

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    Irving is a confirmed Holocaust denier who lost in court affirming he was wrong to begin with as he's not only too stupid to know it was an historical fact but he tried to fool others which shows anything he tells others is suspect. As for under pressure ya, liars often are which would explain his personal life.
     
  20. Scott

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    So you think it's impossible for a court to be biased. Do you think there's a chance that you're wrong?

    Sometimes truthers start to say strange things that they obviously don't believe themselves. Here's a classic example.

    The Shame of Noam Chomsky & left gatekeepers: Zwicker (#3
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhrZ57XxYJU


    I wouldn't be too surprised if David Irving is just saying that to keep his audience happy so that the press will report on what he says about the Holocaust, or something like that. He also may have been threatened.


    Here's some info on the Holocaust for you to check out in case you haven't seen the revisionist side.
    http://www.flinttalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=12196&start=0


    I just came across this but I haven't had time to watch it yet.

    Inside Israel's Race Wars
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTRsnoAmgjc


    It looks promising so I'm posting it anyway. I'll watch it later this week.
     
  21. Greataxe

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    I believe in your imagination a Holocaust Denier is someone who:

    ---Does not believe the 6 million estimate of Jews dying at the hands of the Nazis. They can believe more died, but not less.

    ---Believe Hitler gave a Final Solution order to kill all the Jews, even when this order was disobeyed at all the camps.

    ---That there had to be gas chambers not to delouse inmates, but to kill them with carbon monoxide or Zyklon B gas. Some Holocaust True Believer experts say at least 2,575,900 were gassed at camps.
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/gascamp.html

    But other Holocaust True Believers say that only 1,750,000 Jews were gassed to death in the camps. But that's a difference of 826,000 people.
    http://www.holocaust-education.dk/lejre/udryddelseslejre.asp

    Who is right? 826,000 people are a huge number of people to misplace. That's more than all the US and British servicemen killed in WW 2.

    So, just looking at the Auschwitz camp complex, any Holocaust True Believer MUST now believe that 1.5 million died there.

    Now from what date to what date were inmates gassed and then cremated at Auschwitz? ______________

    Now what was the most accurate figure for the number cremated at Auschwitz? __________________

    What is the average number of crematory ovens operational at Auschwitz daily? ___________________

    What percentage of time did the ovens run every day, or were they perpetual? _____________________
     
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    we know that millions of Jews were kiled during WW2.

    we know that the crematoria ovens at Auschwitz were capable of incinerating 700,000 bodies a year.

    we know that around 800,000 Jews were shipped to Treblinka, and very few made it out.

    we know that around 3 million Polish Jews were missing after WW2.
     
  23. DrewBedson

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    A Holocaust denier is someone who preaches, teaches or publicly states that six million Jews and millions of other minorities were not systematicly murdered by Naz Germany.

    What one believes or asks a question about is thier own business as long as the question does not contain presumptions which deny the Holocaust, then it becomes Holocaust Denial.

    And no, I am under no obligation to entertain your questions.
     
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    Who's "We?"

    I have a background in science. You seem pretty confident in what the Auschwitz crematory ovens were capable of.

    So, please tell in the Auschwitz camp complex(s):

    From what date to what date were the crem ovens operational?

    How many ovens on average were in operation during these dates?

    What percent of the day (24 hours) were they able to function on average?

    How many bodies could each oven handle at a time?

    http://www.cremationresource.org/cremation/how-is-a-body-cremated.html
     
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    I see your faith is very strong with the history of lore of the traditional Holocaust stories.

    I myself do not believe that faith in these versions you believe will impart eternal salvation, so I have every right to question it. I live in a free nation with freedom of speech---you apparently do not.

    You can believe anything you want, but if you want to convince people that do not share your unquestioning belief, then try to explain the math of how it worked.
     

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