The hurricanes ain’t hurricanin’, warmers aren’t happy about it.

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  1. tharock220

    tharock220 Well-Known Member

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    what just started a few weeks ago?

    two major storms. The climate cult predicted there would be seven and is hoping they still happen.
     
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    Or that many of them can't even get hurricane insurance anymore.
     
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    Hurricane season. It's still early.
    And just a few days ago, one of the strongest just went thru USA and devastated NC way off the coast.

    Hoping. WTF. No one is hoping we have them. well, maybe the OP.

    Helene is the 8th named storm. And was a doozy of a Hurricane.
    With the 11th forming in the gulf and likely to be a Hurricane before it hits USA in several days.
     
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    tharock220 Well-Known Member

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    Lmao!!!! We’re more than three months into hurricane season.:roflol:

    we’re more than halfway through and activity should decline. How much does that disappoint you?


    Helene was the second strongest of this season but nothing special historically.
     
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    Not if one is MAGA.
    For MAGA, everyone else is responsible. Because they can't take any responsibility for anything. But they know how to blame.
     
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    But it's not declining. It's picking up.
    It's so far in the top 10. And all the damage hasn't been assessed yet, nor the dead found and counted.

    ...xxx
    As of Monday, Hurricane Helene has already claimed more than 100 lives as the powerful Hurricane that swept through the Southeast left devastation and chaos in its wake.

    Helene is considered to be one of the deadliest hurricanes to make landfall in the mainland United States in the modern era. The Carolinas, Florida, Georgia and Tennesee have all reported deaths from the deadly storm.

    As communities struggle to get back on their feet after the storm, hundreds are still missing with search and rescue operations underway. Buncombe County in North Carolina alone has reported 35 deaths due to the storms, officials said.

    Helene already ranks in the top 10 deadliest storms in mainland United States history. The number of victims could continue to grow as cleanup and rescue operations continue.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...e-rank-katrina-andrew-ian-harvey/75458423007/
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You're trying to explain economics?

    You don't even know, based on your comments in another thread, how the stock market works.
     
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    LOL.

    A lie from a website called hot air. WTF?
     
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    Look at this guy. He’s celebrating how deadly a hurricane was. The season didn’t produce any strong hurricanes. Let’s call a deadly one a dub.




    Yeah, hurricanes are going to be a problem when they hit areas that have larger populations then they did 50 years ago.
     
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    Look at this guy, who called this hurricane not that big of a deal in terms of hurricanes.

    And when shown it's already in the top 10 it thinks its a dub.

    Ashville, NC is not a major population.

    The dead and damage spread from Fl to NC. Several States and hundreds dead. But call it a dub?

    Face it, your thread died a mere days after you pounded your chest and are now eating crow.
     
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    context is important son. I said it was the second strongest of the season but nothing special historically. Clearly I was talking intensity and wind speed.

    Top 10 in what? Yeah, 100 dead suck, but if you have say among the 10 deadliest that hit the continental United States since the year 2000, you’re trying too hard.


    does it have more people living there than it did 50 years ago?

    my thread was about storms. Have they appeared in the numbers the NOAA predicted?

    you latched onto an issue I didn’t bring up in the OP because you couldn’t argue the actual OP.

    can’t believe so many liberals are celebrating this storm because they want it to make a point.
     
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    Just in the top 10 in history so far. And it's only been a few days.
    Still dead to be found. Damage to be accessed. But meh, it's a dub to you.

    Dead thread is what it is.
     
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    I latched on to the lie of the OP about this being a non issue hurricane season.

    When we just had one of the top 10 hurricanes to hit the country a mere 4 days after you posted this lame thread.
     
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    Western North Carolina already had a lot of rainfall before the hurricane remnants got there. That is a big part of the devastation. A cold front had stalled out and once the warm tropical storm water hit it, the already saturated ground just couldn't handle the excessive rainfall. Helene itself wasn't that special of a storm. It was really just bad timing for the area to have the fronts collide over it.
     
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    Would you please stop taunting God?
     
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    Your statement earlier was:
    “We were told if we didn’t reduce fossil fuel consumption by half the 2005 hurricane season was going to look tame compared to what would come.”
    I looked through your links briefly, and could find no reference to the 2005 hurricane season.
     
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    I’m sorry, but in what reality are a category 5 and a category 4 not considered strong hurricanes?
     
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    You seem to be projecting, because it's clear you opened the thread to politicize the presence or absence of hurricanes, only to see a devastating storm hit the US only few days later.
     
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    Funny, your own article says "above normal." So is above normal the same as bad?


    Second, the NOAA predicts hurricanes every year including how many hit the US coastline. However, this article shows that usually, the NOAA is not accurate in predicting how many hurricanes are formed or even how many hit the US Coastline. However, with meteorology, like all sciences, it will change constantly and they update the forecasts constantly despite early predictions.

    However, Hurricane Helene, it was very devastating and went from a TD to a Cat 4 hurricane within a day or two. That is because of the warm water over the gulf of Mexico and we have seen that with the coral in Florida whitening, and so forth. Global Warming is about the rise in the earth ocean surface temperature. This is important because the earth's ocean temperature is who, why, to what extent, where, and when most of our natural weather will occur and how severe it will be. And we are already seeing that from thunderstorms, tornadoes, and even hurricanes on a more consistent basis. If you look at the devestation that Hurricane Helene caused, it caused over $1 trillion in damage in five states with roads wiped out, over 100 deaths, hundreds more missing, communities in the Appalachian areas completely wipe off the face of the earth, etc. We put more and more people within the first few miles of the coastline and we have constant flooding to boot. Look at Fort Lauderdale where they had record amounts of rain, flooding, etc, and the hurricanes never hit shore, did it.
     
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    Just tragic:
     
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    Even more tragic:
     
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    Sure. Sadly only 5% of the Florida residents on the storms path had flood insurance. The Florida insurance crises has reached a point where people simply take their chances without coverage, and some lose it all. Many of my neighbors have also decided to not renew their coverages. A policy for 3 br house can cost $10 000 and that comes with a massive hurricane deductible, and roof coverage is prorated based on the age of the roof, and some don't cover roofs at all.
     
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    An old trick is look at the height of the railroad tracks. Even in bad flooding the railroad tracks tracks are generally high enough. Don't buy a house that is below the level of the railroad tracks.

    As for rising oceans, yes. The Oceans have risen 400 feet in the last 20,000 years. That's a 1/4" a year, and it won't stop until the next glacial advance, which if this interglacial is as long as the last one, could be 3,500 years from now.

    So figure out how far above sea level you want to be, and that the oceans are going to rise about 2.5 inches a decade, and how long you plan on owning the property, and then buy accordingly.

    If you're trying to buy flood insurance in a flood-plane, you have put yourself in a difficult, and an avoidable position.
     
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    I also read that many insurers won’t give coverage if the roof is above a certain age. I believe it was over 10 years, and probably for composite roofs (asphalt shingles).
     
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    Yes. Initially Citizens took over the uninsurable houses, like the ones closest to the coast (like 5 miles), and now Citizens is sending letters that if there is a private insurer who is willing to insure the property around the same price, then people have to cancel Citizens and take the private policy. Well, we just received a letter saying there is a private company who will write a policy for us, but when we read the coverage terms, it turns out it does not cover the roof, and yet it has a massive deductible (over $10K). It's almost pointless to have any insurance with that kind of coverage. Many of my neighbors have opted for no insurance, and some are moving to cheaper pastures in Carolinas and Alabama.
     
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