The Hypocrisy of the CPAC Cancel Culture Theme

I think it is normal. I haven't bought a Levi's product in decades and I have never even tasted Ben and Jerry's ice cream. It isn't unreasonable to avoid patronizing business you don't like for whatever reason.

 

Nonsense. Conservative simply don't patronize places that don't agree with their values leftist want them destroyed. There is a huge difference in saying. I don't want Liz Chenney representing me in congress any more and saying I want her removed from the planet.

 

Nope she is perfectly free to return to her old job and no one is asking she be fired from it.

 

Trump did not attempt to over throw the government, no one this side of Seattle did. That's simply a bogus assertion.

 

Curious, do you boycott Amazon?

 

And that is all that cancel culture is doing, informing people of other's viewpoints so they can deal with them or not, as they desire.

I go to Loew's, not Home Depot, though the Depot is closer. I'm not saying that the Depot should be bombed.

 

Sort of, but that is because I don't like buying things unseen and don't trust deliverers, besides I like shopping.

I remember some years ago I passed on the chance to buy in on this guy who wanted to sell books on the Internet. I thought it would founder on shipping problems, books being heavy and all.

 

I was having a conversation with my son about this the other day. We come from Colorado, one of the more solidly liberal states, by design. One of the highest concentrations of scientific and technology workers and companies. A lot of innovation. One of the better school systems. When we first moved to the Northwest, the Oregon curse was quite evident everywhere we went. Made even worse, having been spoiled by Colorado’s culture. Oregon, meaning beautiful river to the original natives, is in essence the watershed of the Columbia River and includes Washington, Oregon, Idaho, parts of Canada, and parts of California, Montana, and Nevada. I guess it is safe to say, that it is quite easy to see why Idaho and much of Washington and Oregon, are not exactly known for their scholastic achievements. I don’t know the statistics on the matter, but an abnormally large number of people walk with a limp, a lot of subtle birth defects. One does not see the culture of healthy living that is so prominent in Colorado culture.

Portland, or more precisely, the so-called Silicon Forest, is an anomaly. The Silicon Forest is really just an overflow of the technology world from elsewhere. It is somewhere between Cupertino and Redmond, and at a major intersection of major train and truck routes. Those employed in the Silicon Forest are mostly outsiders, as the Oregon educational system isn’t so good at producing workers with sufficient skills and knowledge. It is mostly these well educated outsiders who have made Portland, and by extension, Oregon, so liberal. But it is a precarious position as Portland, and Salem, are surrounded by hostiles, the slow row of the second tier.

Colorado is quite a bit different. Boulder may be the most liberal city in America, but its neighbors, such as Longmont, Lafayette, Denver, and Westminster are just as liberal in their own right, as is Fort Collins. Up in the high country, those places where the celebrities go to play are also quite liberal leaning, but for different reasons. Even Colorado Springs, with its conservative reputation, leans slightly to the left.

I can understand your insanity comment. After all, the COVID infection and death rates in Oregon have been like a third of those in Idaho. That is really insane. I see why conservatives so hate Oregon’s liberal government.

 

I wear Levi’s because I have always had the physique that looks good in them. It is almost as if the standard Levi fit, was designed especially for me.

A few years back, a customer shot himself in the foot, inside a Levi’s store. Levi’s CEO responded by speaking out against the gun culture. Can’t say I blame him.

 

Dr. Suess...Should I say more? Cancel Culture... A sickness. Now, Congress wants to cancel free enterprise and people being able to be self-employed with the Pro Act being reintroduced by Schumer and Pelosi. They want all to be employed by someone else and controlled by Unions. All get in line or we will cancel you out. Freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom to earn your own income self-employed is being strangled and cancelled by your lovely Communist Government leaders.

 

No it is working to destroy reputations, prevent people from holding or getting jobs and a host of other things. Boycotts are meaningless. Home Depot won't miss you any more than Ben and Jerry will miss me. People losing jobs because of efforts by cancel culturists is personally devastating.

 

She will just get another job in the Biden administration. Biden has said as much. There are only so many jobs that require Senate approval.

 

No. Do you think I should?

 

I read something awhile back that indicated that when companies promote liberal ideas, that it tends to be good for business, whereas when a company expresses conservative ideas, that it tends to hurt business.

 

Don't you think that would depend on the location and type of business?

 

I have never paid much attention to right wing media, so I am not inclined to agree with your assessment. Although I do find it rather amusing that so many conservatives can comfortably pretend that Kim Jong-un did not play the Trump. Seems to me that the Trump did little more than parrot what was being said on FOX. Funny isn’t it, how the Trump always seemed to know what y’all were thinking.

 

Apparently you are unaware that when conservatives talk, it tends to be offensive language. Y’all wonder why so many minorities are opposed to the things y’all say and do. Sometimes I just wonder if conservative mothers don’t teach their children good manners. Never show them how to be polite around other people.

 

Well, this is awkward since in this particular thread I've made a bit of a point about trying to stay on topic.

In this instance you have pulled out one of my responses to one of Seth's responses.

Seth posted this,

Conservatives share some values in common, but they are actually a diverse group. They don't agree on everything. If they want to win in 2024 they must lose their support for Donald Trump, and, instead, embrace and promote a candidate with grace and class but who believes in the same policies as Trump did. I happen to think that those policies are still very popular among a huge part of the electorate, even if Trump is not.

And I replied with this,

I support several of Trump's actions as President. I support taking out Soleimani. I support leaving the Paris Climate Accord. I support almost all things Oil and Gas, but I think that maybe we don't really need to have rescinded the protected status of Big Ears or whatever it's called. I also support wind and solar. I think solar is the way to go and that the whole planet should come together to build a giant equatorial sun belt based grid to deliver free power to the entire planet. It would be epic. I vote myself to be the project manager.

Sadly, I do not support frivolous f wits like the Trumps and have to defer some of my personal preferences in favor of having some semblance of competency in the Oval. Also, sadly, Biden was the only other option and I suppose in hindsight the only one of the D field I'd now have preferred would probably be Booker, well, aside from maybe Sanders who is also a bit too old, but there's at least one thread about setting an age limit on federal office.

Now, the reason I replied as I did to Seth's point was to assert that I understand that people have diverse opinions and not only that but also that I happen to share what are classified as conservative opinions for certain subjects.

So, no, I really don't care to divert to discuss in this thread the reasons that I have the opinions I do regarding energy policy and climate change. I brought this up and made this point in pursuit of the impossible, which is to persuade someone to change their opinion regarding their position about Trump's policy positions being a leadership qualification that somehow overrides his lack of integrity, much less his intentional attempt to overthrow the election which was an attempt to overthrow the government of the US.

However, I will discuss this with you here if you like....

 

Holy f'g checkmate. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

 

Yes.

 

You are Portland is living that educational attainment is no guarantee of common sense and often a guarantor of its non existence. Believe it or not I once had the very minor role of Max the owner of the kit Kat club in Cabaret. The title song should be the hedonist theme song. And the back ground against which it was set is what happens when the party becomes the most important thing. And please note I didn't say political party.

 

But when you talk, your talk tends to be offensive to conservatives.

 

I do more than boycott, I inform the management, I sign petitions where I see them and I generally try to let people know. If I had a web page I would put my concerns there.

I have every right to demand that people I don't agree with be fired. That's done as a matter of course in this country and several others. Others have the same right with me and most rightists I know of aren't shy about using it.

Freedom of expression simply means the government cannot stop you from expressing yourself. It doesn't mean that such expression is completely free from repercussions by private citizens. If the people in the Westboro Baptist Church want to demonstrate at funerals of our war dead the police can't stop them, if one of them is found to be working for the local government many people are going to demand they be fired, me among them

 

Good question, however, a bit unfair during this pandemic where so many of us are staying home as much as possible.

Other than groceries, meds, and medical appointments, there are things I need that I can't get unless I'm willing to go to a Target store or someplace similar and paw through things that have been greatly exposed to the paws of others. I don't like going anywhere during this disaster, even with a mask and gloves. Plus, I've never liked shopping.

Also, I can't afford cable or satellite, so my viewing is all through the Amazon Fire TV device. Amazon prime is a great service to have.

No one else does what Amazon does. I wish they did have competition.

 

Umm ... no. I live in Colorado Springs, and it's still a red dot on a mostly blue or purple state map. The huge military presence and the mega-church attendees have kept that utter idiot, Doug Lamborn, in DC for far too long.

Early in this pandemic, there were maskless morons out and about every time I went to the grocery store, before the state-wide mandate was enacted and before the retailers had to put up signs. Twice, I was heckled by the morons for wearing one.

There is no shortage of knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing stupidity in this town.