The idea behind "Wokeness"

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is the definition of the whole concept of "Wokeness".
    https://blog.washcoll.edu/wordpress/theelm/2020/10/the-meaning-of-wokeness-explained/

    Now I would like to explain how this concept of "being woke" fits in the human condition from my own point of view.

    We know that around the world, from culture to culture there are several links of commonality. One that comes to mind is that human kind is aware that it falls short of perfection. There are many ways the cultures attempt to atone for that shortcoming. A worship of a variety of gods, and to appease them blood sacrifice was often the answer. Early worshippers of Baal put their new borns in the red hot arms of a fiery idol to appease the god of fertility. Various rituals of all kinds across the planet were similar in nature.

    All of these point to one thing.....mankind was created with a void in his being. That void was a need for "salvation" from his imperfection. Today we often make sacrifice in various ways, but many look to the modern concept of "wokeness" to satisfy that need for salvation. It is the idea man can achieve his own salvation by adhering to a new concept and shunning others it will elevate them to a status where there is no need for atonement.

    Christians on the other hand know that there is no human concept that can atone for our imperfection. Only through faith and the provision of Jesus Christ can we overcome. It is not by our works or what we claim to be. It is only by the ultimate sacrifice that was made on our behalf at Calvary can we overcome our imperfection and shame.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christians? Like the one that just killed 8 people and was headed to kill more because he didn’t feel this “void” was filled?

    I prefer blue haired feminists over that any day.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christians are just like you (even though you are woke) flawed human beings. They can sometimes be overcome by the influence of hell. Only God knows their level of belief.
    Christians aspire to perfection though they know they have not arrived. I could see the arrogance and pride of the "woke crowd" implementing concentration camps for non-followers in the future. It is evident in the way they use their social engineering to conduct the "cancel culture".
     
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    I am far from woke. Just an observation
     
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    I'd like to expand on this, if I may.

    They may well be attempting to fill a void, but at the end of the day that's also what religious fundamentalists are doing. I regard wokists as exactly the same animal as the religious fundamentalist, in that they have subscribed to an ideology and put the blinkers on to block critical thought.

    I suspect that the yin to that yang is the unimpressed (by ideologies) atheist. The person who doesn't have a void to fill in the first place. Or rather, fills that void with people and other beauties of the social mammal existence. They remain connected and 'purposed' to their animal nature.
     
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    Just blame the shooter.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can agree when you use the term "religious fundamentalists'".. The term, by my definition describes man's effort toy reach perfection or "Holiness". Without faith works are dead. It is only by faith and what has done on our behalf that one can achieve atonement. Of course should one deny the existence of God, none of this applies.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Not sure we're on same page, Friend. I'm all about works. If I was religious enough I'd be a Jesuit, if you will.

    Upshot - to my mind, the Wokest is the Faithist. Not interested in works, only in the indulgence of feelings (and unfortunately a lot of those feelings are self-righteousness).
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't think we are on the same page. Faith implies there is a God who redeems us. He prods us on to do good works. Works in themselves results in the pride we reach atonement apart from God. In other words....we don't need Him.

    Woke philosophy entails that man has the ability to reach perfection. Faith understands we can't do it without divine help. It is the American Revolution (based on faith) versus the French Revolution (utopian philosophy)
     
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    Wokeness to me is just meanness. People who don't have power find some power in destroying others. It is a sickness.
     
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