Where is the proof you are not confusing weather and climate? You claimed a revolution was caused by climate. Perhaps that is the cause of war. But I asked you and you refused up to this point to prove climate causes wars with more examples than simply Syria. Dance floor is yours again.
I did not quote Curry in my example of Amsterdam Netherlands. I would appreciate it if you stuck to what I actually say. And what is your solution. Solution away. I want your solution. Do you know what the USA alleges is the safe level of Carbon Dioxide is for humans? 5,000 ppm. That is much higher than today. But per the Feds, it is safe.
You're resorting to some sort of argument in extrema, which is a fallacy. Also, remember that it wasn't that it got hot - it's that it got dry. The area does experience droughts, but the length and depth of the drought was significant, with scientists finding a link to climate change. Remember that this is a DoD concern. We've seen what happened in Somalia and other areas of food stress.
That doesn't mean anything at all. I know of no claim that Amsterdam is a representation of climate change or its effects.
Are you suggesting that someone, somewhere has suggested that the problem with climate change is that you're getting gassed to death?
Good God, first you argue a point then move away from your own point. i checked on you. As a Software engineer i expect you to take the scientific path. Not the political path. Don't give me a point, that could be valid, then act shy about defending your own views. You blame a war on climate. I want to know where else you blame war on climate and you run off.
Well hell, you used Syria. And you claim you are a Software engineer? Will this be the same view by all software engineers or just your view?
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/03/150302-syria-war-climate-change-drought/ Wars such as this are incredibly expensive and gigantic human tragedies. Let's hope it never happens again. However, climate change clearly has an impact on agriculture, and there are numerous nations that have a very hard time feeding themselves. And, this kind of disaster affects more than just the nation where there was a problem. As with Syria, when people lack food, they move. In the world today, people movement is a serious security problem. The USA, with all our wealth, got hugely upset at accepting almost nobody who was attempting to escape Syria.
Syria is a model of how this kind of problem will play out. I'm not claiming that we've already experienced a lot of Syria type wars.
Fine, I shall now visit DOD page to see how upset they are. https://www.defense.gov/ Gee why am I not shocked. Not one thing about climate dangers. Hell surely under Obama DOD was pulling it's hair out over Climate. Well no they did not. DEC. 16, 2016 1225 Report: December, 2016 DEC. 13, 2016 DoD Law of War Manual, December 2016 DEC. 9, 2016 DoD Memorandum: Potential for Government Shutdown NOV. 29, 2016 Applying the Law of Targeting to the Modern Battlefield NOV. 28, 2016 Joint Statement of Intent between the U.S. and France NOV. 9, 2016 SD Transition Memo to All DoD Employees NOV. 1, 2016 Fact Sheet: The Fifth and Sixth Links to the Force of the Future OCT. 27, 2016 2016 Australia Japan U.S. Trilateral Information Sharing Arrangement Signing OCT. 20, 2016 Joint Communiqué of the 48th U.S.-ROK Security Consultative Meeting OCT. 3, 2016 Principles Related to the Protection of Medical Care SEPT. 23, 2016 Report to Congress on Resourcing the Arctic Strategy SEPT. 22, 2016 Joint Statement on United States - Pakistan Defense Consultative Group Meeting SEPT. 9, 2016 Readout of the U.S.-Republic of Korea-Japan Defense Trilateral Talks Video-Teleconference SEPT. 7, 2016 Readout of U.S.-ROK-Japan Trilateral Video-Teleconference JULY 26, 2016 First Republic of Korea-U.S. Defense Technology Strategy and Cooperation Group High-Level Talks Joint Press Release
I've heard from no scientist that there is a concern that humans could be impacted by having so much co2 in the air that we start to suffer from that. So, why did you mention this?
How often do you use one study as proof? A study that says this. As an engineer one might think you would wish to isolate this and study each factor. I would were I a software engineer.
I have yet to find your claims backed up by a scientist. i find you reported on Syria from the perspective of politics though.
You know, for making it look like you tried I give you an A+. LOL!! There is a lot out there. How about this from 2015: http://archive.defense.gov/pubs/150...ions-of-climate-change.pdf?source=govdelivery One of the paragraphs in its conclusion:
I've read several studies on this factor in the war in Syria. I'm absolutely NOT going to post all the studies on this topic. This is a well known issue that has been well investigated.
That is fine. Lets return to the awesome earth shaking conclusions as to why slight modifications to climate spells such doom. I want your solutions.
And you get an A+ for also trying. First, you are well aware that Obama was a huge fear monger over climate. His DOD bent over backwards to help feed his fear. By this time we should see something even a small thing, developing their proof. Shucks, I hate to ask you, but what gloom and doom or war has been getting worse that you want to blame on climate?
Articles concerning climate change in several ME and South Asia countries: https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/03/04/pakistans-big-threat-isnt-terrorism-its-climate-change/ https://en.annahar.com/article/6372...ation-of-the-lebanese-economy-and-environment https://www.mdpi.com/2225-1154/6/1/8/htm (climate change impacts on Saudi Arabia) https://news.nationalgeographic.com...terrorist-recruiting-iraq/?user.testname=none https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-45949323 https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Clima...-threat-to-Israel-the-US-and-the-world-489556
Well, you know I quoted the DoD saying: "We are already observing the impacts of climate change in shocks and stressors to vulnerable nations and communities, including in the United States, and in the Arctic, Middle East, Africa, Asia, and South America." And, you followed that by a totally unsubstantiated claim that the DoD is lying!! And, then you ask for more??? Why?
Again you misrepresent what I said. I will remind you. The DOD bent over backwards to feed his fear. I did not claim DOD lied to him. You are excused from the forum for now. They were speculating. Did you not notice that? OK, they said they see impacts. Gee, wonder what those are?
