The Invention of White people

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    You're right I'm "not the boss of you". So, I'll just put you on ignore. Let me know when you're ready to discuss the subject of the OP.
    Have a nice day and stay safe.
     
  2. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    No, that's your twisted version again.

    I'm not saying that white people needed to do anything.

    I was just saying what actually happened.

    Please stop saying what you think I'm saying, because you're really, really bad at it.
     
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    I graciously accept your surrender.
     
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    For someone who says that it's just what happened, you seem to have an opinion on what forms of slavery are better or worse. How can you do that if you're just reporting the facts as is? The answer is you can't unless you're smuggling in some ideas of white supremacy, in this case here? White man's burden and slavery was made better by it.
     
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    Ya gotta admit, that Aztec/Mayan malarkey was kooky bananapants. It was like a bunch of psychotics got together and were like "Hey! Let's make a civilization, and then drive it straight off the rails!"

    As far as white supremacy, forget that, because I'm certainly not pulling any punches on those sick bastard Europeans with their Inquisitions, and witch hunts, and their Pears of Anguish.

    Yeah...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear_of_anguish

    Sick, sick little monkeys.

    Human beings are, by far, the worst people on the planet.

    You can quote me on that.
     
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    No, I won't. Because it wasn't. It makes sense when you put it in the right context. It doesn't really matter what people think of it, just understand why it's there.
     
  7. Creasy Tvedt

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    No, you can quote me. You have my permission.
     
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    Few of the indentured people who came to colonial America signed a contract. It was a prison sentence. But your questions have nothing to do with history. The fact is, they weren't slaves. They were indentured. It's a small point that I usually would just let go since the ridiculous 1619 Project, but you just seemed so arrogant about what you thought American high school students should know, that it seems that teacher, educate yourself first.
     
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    Not taught? Weird, because that means that every year in every grade in public school, students have to suffer though an entire month of worthless and time wasting Black history lectures.
     
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    I'm white. GOD invented me.
    I'm white and I'll never apologize or feel "guilt" over it.
     
  11. Moriah

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    I KNOW that those 20 Africans were not indentured servants---they were slaves. The slavers traded them for food. Indentured people DID have contracts. Their contracts spelled out how long their indenture was, what they would receive when they were set free and what kind of work they were expected to do.
    Sorry if you don't like to have me disagree with you. I still believe high school students should know the true story of this country's history.
    If this subject is too difficult for you, you can just leave the thread. I'll understand.
     
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    I am not going to respond to any trolling posts. If you don't have anything substantial to add to the conversation, please run along.
    Thank you and have a nice day.:)
     
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    except White Jewish Europeans and White Christian Europeans invented Race Based Chattel Slavery, a unique system that was implemented across the south in 1640.
     
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    its most likely they were slaves but there is also the defense that they were indentured servants, surely we can find some documentation in the archives.
     
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    I will continue to look for documentation. I've been reading up on slavery in colonial America.
    It's a very interesting time in our country's history.
     
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    for sure. even the naysayers are beginning to acknowledge its lasting impact. seen quite a few changes in attitude by a lot of posters here.
     
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    It was implemented across the south, all over the Caribbean, and in South America too, going back as far as the early 1500s , a hundred years before the first black Africans set foot in Virginia.

    Despite the nonsense America-hating sociologists puke up in lecture halls, some sort of new and unique form of slavery was NOT "invented" in colonial America.

    The entire premise of the OP is nonsense.
     
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    I've demonstrated that the premise of your OP is nonsense, and you haven't even bothered to try and argue otherwise.

    Your evasions are noted.
     
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    that has not been officially documented as far as im aware.
     
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    you havent done anything of the kind, just emotional hyperbole with clearly no intention of discussion

    lets not fill up this topic with personal insults. thanks.
     
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    Before slavery even began in colonial America, there were many, many, many African slaves in Brazil, and slavery wasn't ended in Brazil until 1888, they being the last country in the western world to abolish slavery.

    There were African slaves in Brazil decades before the slave trade even began in North America, and there were African slaves in Brazil decades after slavery had ended in North America.
     
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    yes, we know this but was it common law?

    thats what we're attempting to figure out, where this Race Based Chattel Slavery was codified.
     
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    Yes, slavery in Brazil was all perfectly legalized and ratified and codified and bona fide under Portuguese law.

    It even had the blessing of The Pope.
    And that all happened before America was even a thing.
     
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    interesting, yet it doesnt show that the race of the slave was codified., could you point me to the section where it mentions that, thanks.
     
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    It's right there.
    See it? It's right there in big, bold letters.

    Do you think the Pope had orange Oompa Loompas in mind when he issued that bull?

    Do you think it was a coincidence, or some kind of weird quirk of fate, that it was only ever black Africans that were coming off the Portuguese slave ships when they reached Brazil?
     
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