The Killing of Patrick Lyoya

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The Killing of Patrick Lyoya - what do you think of it?

  1. it was not ok

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  2. it was ok

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  3. other

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    19.4%
  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The cop wasn't telling him not to grab the taser, he was telling him to let go of the taser.

    Can you say with 100% certainty that had he gotten full control of the taser, that would have been the end of it? I think he'd use the taser on the cop. Does he walk away peacefully when the cop is disabled? Probably not.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The majority of people disagree with you.

    This guy wasn't meant for the civilized world.
     
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    I don't think there ever should have been a physical altercation.

    Let the guy run away, find him later. The stolen goods could be returned to the owner, there was most likely plenty of evidence in the vehicle to ID the perp. Go back later with more people to execute the warrant.
     
  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you're just being ridiculous.
     
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  5. WhoDatPhan78

    WhoDatPhan78 Banned

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    yea, i don't agree with most people.

    Doesn't bother me.
     
  6. kazenatsu

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    Just to let you know, police do NOT work like that.
     
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    Clearly.
     
  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your proposed style of doing things would lead to many implications, and other unforseen problems.
     
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    yes, nothing is perfect.
     
  10. Curious Always

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    The cop literally knew nothing about the man. The penalty for resisting arrest shouldn't be getting away with at least two broken laws.
     
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    Police in the Congo definitely would have shot him in this situation.
     
  12. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you imagine the outrage on the police if this guy got away and committed more serious crimes? Sheesh.
     
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    Nor should it be death.

    Maybe there can be something between the two.

    I suspect that they would have been able to find some evidence in the vehicle. I would prefer that they give that a shot rather than giving the suspect a shot.
     
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    In an ideal world, yes.

    Maybe we can eliminate poverty and disease too.
     
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    Only in America would some pronounce the guilt of a policeman before a complete investigation takes place.
    So, I voted other.
    Tired of all the rush to judgement narratives I believe is motivated by one's political persuasion or the echo chamber.
     
  16. kazenatsu

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    Maybe police will start making it a policy to call backup before they pull over any black man who looks like he has a strong body build?

    would be racist, but that would probably go a long way to reduce these killings

    "We have a black guy here, someone bring the tranquilizer gun and net gun, just in case"
     
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    That's not how it works.

    Once he grabbed the cop's taser, all bets are off. Had he been successful in restraining the cop, there's no telling what would happen next. You cannot say with any certainty whatsoever, that after he tasers the cop, he gets back in his car and drives away to live a lawful life.
     
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    yea, that is why it should have never gotten physical to begin with.

    Cops should be trained to just let them run away, if they do not appear to be armed, if they resist and they don't have any backup there.

    In this case, the guy running away is a better outcome than the police shooting him. If they had a couple more officers there, then sure, go ahead and do a physical takedown and arrest him.
     
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    Maybe that's why he panicked. Seeing a uniform brings back bad memories for some people.

    The cop must have seen what happened to Chauvin, so I'll bet he wishes he had called for back up as opposed to wrestling with the guy.
     
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    I asked you first that which is salient to THIS circumstance.

    So anytime a police officer tries to stop someone they should just run away?
    What are the options if the criminal is about get his weapon during a violent struggle?
     
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    This officer should not have engaged in a physical altercation alone. he should have allowed the guy to run away in this situation.

    No, people should never run away from police.

    When they do try to get away, the police shouldn't take it personally, and get into a pissing contest over a non violent violation.
     
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    Did the officer know if the criminal was unarmed, had he been able to search him?
     
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    If the officer doesn't know he is armed, and he is running away, they should assume he is unarmed.

    You seem to think that most people are animals and need to be put down, sorry you feel that way.
     
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    It is their JOB to apprehend them andnyou just gave license to everyone to just run away from always enforcement and they can do nothing about it.

    What you continue to leave out is the criminal should NEVER run from a police officer or resist arrest. You put it entirely on the person sworn to uphold the law.

    You just gave the the OK to do so since you would prohibited the police from trying to stop them.

    What garbage. It was a "pissing contest" it was a fleeing criminal. The police stop someone for a minor violation and they first attempt to flee and then physically resist arrest is CLEAR probable cause they have outstanding warrants or are in possession of something illegal like illegal guns or drugs.
     
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    Again what utter garbage they have to assume hee IS armed until they can assure he is not. How many law enforcement do you feel comfortable being killed or seriously injured each year?

    You seem to think law enforcement are animals and need to be put down, sorry you feel that way.
     
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