The law separating aliens from their children was passed in 1997

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  1. rocker65

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    I don't disagree (in fact I tend to agree), but I'm just a bit curious about your source for this.
     
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    WHAT certain way ? The certain way is according to the laws.
     
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    Everyone here is missing the point! Most people feel this is cruel. Instead of trying to place the blame on someone why don't we just stop taking kids from parents?????
    There is a Constitutional issue here one might want to consider:

    Amendment VIII: " Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."
     
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    It is how the law is being intrepreted and enforced that is the issue.
     
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    You're sowing bull crap.
     
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    This sounds like Nazi Germany when people were told they were going to the showers and they were put in gas chambers:

    "According to federal defenders, some Border Patrol agents are lying to families about why and how long they’re being separated. A federal defender told the Washington Post’s Michael E. Miller that parents were told their children were just being taken away briefly for questioning. Liz Goodwin of the Boston Globe cites a defender saying that in several cases, children were taken “by Border Patrol agents who said they were going to give them a bath. As the hours passed, it dawned on the mothers the kids were not coming back.”https://www.vox.com/explainers
     
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    Meanwhile the greater number of children illegally coming across the border are unacompanied by their parents.
     
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    Nope sure don't, but I do dee those living there preaching to the U.S. about our humane way of dealing with them, just so SO hypocritical and down right ridiculous!
     
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    Nah, that happened back 2013!
    POLITICS
    06/25/2014 09:22 pm ET Updated Jun 26, 2014
    Deportation Separated Thousands Of U.S.-Born Children From Parents In 2013

    Just ask Little Stephanie Pucheta

    Oh wait Mr. Obatard had her ripped from her parents and no one knows where she is today :(
     
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    The number was from a discussion in an interview on the news. If you look up details, you can confirm it.

    The below comes from the federation for immigration reform:

    "When Congress passed a law in 1980 allowing people to claim political asylum, federal officials predicted the United States would receive a maximum of 5,000 applicants annually. Instead, applications have soared as high as 150,000 a year, with many claims frivolous and fraudulent. Asylum has become a “back door” for circumventing the regular immigration process. Its abuse is unfair to the people trying to immigrate legally to the United States and to those who truly merit asylum."

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    You can see that at times, the number of applications has been ten times the number of asylums granted. You can also see that while applications have dropped dramatically in 2000, grants of it increased dramatically. More current charts and data are harder to find.

    The asylum application backlog was estimated at 324,438 at the end of FY01. 80 percent of the backlog of asylum applications is from just two countries, El Salvador and Guatemala. The top five source countries for applications in the asylum backlog comprise 90 percent of the backlog, as follows:


    1. El Salvador 162,000 50%
    2. Guatemala 96,000 30%
    3. Haiti 17,000 5%
    4. Nicaragua 13,000 4%
    5. China 4,000 1%


    This again is older information. Currently we are having a lot of asylum seekers from places such as Mexico, which wasn't even on the list in 2000. I don't think Mexico has become suddenly more hostile to it's people, but a lot now seek the asylum option to get in. The fact is that the process, until recently, allowed those claiming asylum to be released pending future hearings on the validity of the claim. That gave anybody willing to apply a pass into the country. Most disappeared into the world of illegal immigrants. When the policy changed and the began to hold them instead, the family presence, or child issue was at first a way to avoid detention and continue to get released. With that blocked, we still have people trying it and no doubt the people smuggles in Mexico (coyotes, etc) still promoting it.
     
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    Hmm.., no different from the eugenics and abortion programs created by progressives. Over 60 million abortions since Rowe.
     
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    There was no law that required separating children from their parents.

    You're believing what the pathological liar is telling you again, aren't you?
     
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    Who in the DRC is criticizing the US about separating children from parents? Give a credible source please.
     
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    A poster, you go figure it out so as I don't have to mention names, I hear that's not allowed here ;)
     
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    You will find that a lot concerning many statistics during the Obama Presidency.. It clearly wasn't as transparent as promised!
     
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    lefties are explaining this as yeah but obama didnt do it as much. Ridiculous the way these people think.
     
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    Cruz has put forth a bill to allow parents to stay with the children until their case is adjudicated -- it's narrow and just has this one provision in it to solve the immediate difficulty. Could be done this week.

    But this is backward, recalcitrant Washington, D.C.
     
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    So the Republican Congress can fix this mess (good luck there) or Trump could fix it in a minute by twitter.

    Think either will happen?
     
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    So the whole thing is just a leftwing media conspiracy and nothing is any different than it ever was? And there is no climate change. There is a Deep State controling everything on Earth. The Clintons have murdered dozens of people. Obama wasn't born in the US and is a Muslim. The attacks on 9/11 were an inside job. Reptilians are running the world. The moon landing was faked. The Holocaust didn't happen.:brainless:
     
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    or dems could fix it by the time I get......actually dems cant fix a cup of coffee without a government panel and a set of 1700 page instructions.
    The problem here is dems dont want to introduce anything to stop the flow of illegals. They need these people to commit the crime of voting for them. after that dems could care less about illegals. Just ask a dem what they are doing to stop illegals from crossing our border. they will say something like...we need to work on a solution...which really means kick the can down the road as these traitorous filth *spits* have done for 40 years.
     
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    Dems didn't cause it and don't control Congress.

    This is the result of a POLICY that could be reversed tomorrow if Trump wanted to
     
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    Sure...and what are lefties going to do to stop future illegals from coming in and perpetuating this problem? Dodge the question so your BS can be demonstrated to the readers.
     
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    There's a camp in Arizona for temporary holding those illegal aliens for adjudication and another in Texas. They may have to be expanded for a short while. Democrats for all their bluster and propaganda about the children were happy enough with flouting the laws during the Obama administration allowing thousands upon thousands of children both girls and boys to be forced into human sex trafficking.
     
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