The left and Democrats has lost it claiming Russia gave Trump the win.

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The left wants us to think that somehow Russia gave Donald Trump the big win on election night. They just don't understand America anymore or the reasons why people chose not to vote for her and they don't care.

    First off the states that gave Trump the win including Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio have been devastated by the loss of jobs. Trump said he would bring back these jobs to help out these people. Hillary never said she would help them out or even offer a good reason for these people to vote for her. She ignored the hard working white American blue collar workers. Since NAFTA more than 1 million jobs has been lost. Fail for Hillary.

    Many Americans including Christians and hard working white Americans felt ignored. They still feel ignored. The left does not care about their problems and continue to ignore them by saying Hillary lost because of Russia. So none of these peoples votes matter? So they had nothing to do with Hillary losing?

    Hillary called many people deplorables and the left calls them poorly educated or stupid. People are tired of being treated like idiots just because they want change. Is it wrong of us to want something better then Hillary Clinton? Seriously? So it is "vote for our guy or you are dumb".....Yeah ok. Maybe if she offered us a good reason to vote for her she would have had more voters. How many democrats were so disgusted with her that they stayed home?

    Hillary acid bleached 33 thousand e-mails. Why would she wipe clean these e-mails if she had nothing to hide? So she can be a criminal and the left is ok that? Why else would they blame Russia for her losing? They don't want to admit she was a criminal. Now they will tell you there was hearings and nothing was proven. How can we prove anything when the evidence is completely wiped out? How can people not see what she did was wrong?

    Let's not forget she stood on stage with Jay Z while he said "I give my finger to God" and fingered the camera. How can you expect to get votes when you make christians in this country feel like you don't care about God? Many christians did vote. Were they influenced by Russia? No.

    She has a huge list of things wrong with her which is why she lost the election. She did it to herself. Russia did not force anybody to vote against Hillary. Russia did not influence anybody to vote for Hillary. Wikileaks only exposed the truth about Hillary. Trump's life has never been a secret so there was not much to expose about him. There is no evidence that Russia changed the outcome of the election or even was a part of it. Is it wrong to have good relations with Russia? No. Russia did not even hack anything. The recounts in Wisconsin showed Trump had even more votes then before the recounts.

    Russia is not the problem here. Hillary is and if all of you angry left sore losers can't figure that out then you're not as smart as you all keep claiming to be. I voted against Hillary for numerous reasons just like everyone else and Russia had nothing to do with that. You all need to stop claiming that Russia gave Trump the win. This is sad that you all have stooped so low to lay blame on another country instead of Hillary.

    The popular vote does not even reflect how a person campaigns and besides Hillary had a 90% biased news media and a lot more money to help her get more votes. Not including the many hispanics who only voted for her because they were afraid of Trump. She still lost because she did not care about what America really wanted and the left does not care either or they would understand why they lost.

    Saudi Arabia gave Hillary as much as 25 million dollars. Why is nobody concerned about that? Seriously the one sided unfair agenda to cast doubt on the elections has got to stop. YOU ALL LOST. Please stop crying about it. Nobody cares anymore. I work with over 1,000 people and a lot of them voted for Hillary and they do not care anymore. It's over. You guys lost. Russia had nothing to do with that and if the Democratic party continues this load of crap in 2020 you will lose again.

    I am an American. I demand change. I am sick with the way this country is. I will never vote for a Democrat if they don't give a crap about me. Hillary could care less what I think. Wow how hard is it to understand why you guys really lost? The left and Democrats have lost all of my respect.
     
  2. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The latino's registered to vote increased by 4 million people in the 2016 elections. States like California have a lot of Latino's. So if you think about it Latino's gave Hillary the popular vote. Trump never campaigned in California, Texas or New York and his message was to white working Americans and not Latino's giving him the EC win. So how many of these Latino's do you think voted for Hillary only because of the repeated comments Trump made about them? If we asked them how many do you think actually wanted Hillary as president? 54% of Latinos in Florida voted for Trump and some of them said it was because they did not trust Hillary but in most of the other states Hillary got a lot of Latino votes. Hillary got the popular vote from Latinos. She completely ignored the fact many hard working white Americans are losing jobs. She lost the election because she did not care what people like me want in America. We do not matter to her!

    So that is almost 15 million Latinos that probably voted for who they felt would help them more in the long run and that was crooked Hillary with her open boarders policy. With that many people voting and Trump talking about a wall in Mexico and deportations of course Hillary would win the popular vote but Latino's do not get to decide who the next president is. The electoral college does and America has spoken.

    There you have it. Latino's voted against Trump because of a wall/deportation even though some of them admitted to not trusting Hillary.

    This is the real reason why Trump won. He did not ignore the hard working white Americans and made them feel like he did care landing him the big win in the EC which determines the winner. The popular vote does not determine the winner and neither do Latinos or California.

    It's sad the Democrats keep whining they won due to the popular vote that was given to them by Latino's and illegals. What is even worse is the fact they act like us hard working white Americans do not matter and our votes do not matter. I am a college graduate who would like to see some change in this country. My vote does matter. You can't expect to win by only trying to make Latinos, Blacks and Gay people happy. I am not racist but seriously we do have a say in this country and we sent that message when we elected Donald Trump as our president.

    If you all want to blame Russia for the reason you lost then you are all as blind as Hillary. Russia had nothing to do with you guys losing. Everybody in America matters. If you continue to ignore why you lost and put the blame on every else you will lose again in 2020.

    Yeah and you left people still don't get it. Continue to ignore us and see what happens in 2020. Don't blame Russia for something they did not do.
     
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    Hey now the left is saying Russia did not change the election in Trumps favor but continue to complain that Russia did hack us and we need to take it seriously. I don't buy it. The left wants to cast doubt on the election to make Trump look bad. Everyone knows Russia, China, America and other countries hack each other so why complain about it now? The left likes to try to scare people. It is a tactic they use to try to get more support. Another fail. So the many times we have been hacked in the past decade did not matter but this possible hacking from Russia does? Look at how many times we have been hacked:

    Where was everybody complaining when China hacked us in 2014?

    Hacking has been ongoing since 1903. Bill Clinton tried to fix it in 1999:

    2001:

    How about 2004?

    2007:

    2008:

    2012:

    2014:

    This is a great one and this has been around for several years I believe:

    So why now does the left scream foul after the Democratic party has lost? Hacking has been going on for a long time all over the world. This is nothing new. Seriously why are you people only making an issue of it now and not before? Is it to cast doubt on the elections? I think it is even though they now claim that is not the issue. I don't buy none of the crap the left is ranting about. You guys need to stop the whining and accept the fact that Hillary lost because of Hillary and not because of Russia.

    Hey what about the time Obama tried to influence an election? Where were all of you then if you are so against countries trying to influence elections?

    I don't remember anybody going crazy about that election. Seriously we are not buying this load of garbage. It is fake to complain about another country doing it when our own country has done it. There is not even a single shred of evidence to prove Russia did even hack us. If this is how the Democratic party is going to be in 2020 you have already lost. The left loves false news and hysteria and anything they can do to scare people and it is not working. Nobody cares. Not a single person I know has even talked about the election or Trump in over 2 weeks and I work with over 1,000 people, most of whom drive from Des Moines and told me they voted for Hillary. So even the majority of Democrats has accepted the election results. It's time to move on already. Hillary was a criminal. Trump won because America voted for him. Enough said.
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1903?

    What about the time BILL Clinton influenced a Russian election? From that bastion of Liberal thought:

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    I'm a white Progressive who voted for Obama the first time. I did not vote for Hillary and am glad Trump won and am glad Russia helped him. Hillary was and is a corrupt mafia DNC party hack who is not a Progressive.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She did a pretty good job herself of losing the election. Nobody can blame anyone other than Hillary for losing the election. The left is in panic mode as Trump gets ready to take office.
     
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    Why is your skin pigmentation so important to you that you feel the need to point it out?
     

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