The Lie about Hunter's Laptop

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Did the" big lie" about hunter's laptop save the election for President Biden?

  1. No, Biden was very popular due to his outstanding performances

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  2. No, The Russians are geniuses about forgeries and the powers that be, were right to censor the story

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  3. Yes, polls show 10% would have viewed the corruption unfavorably. enough to vote no.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The New York Times recently recanted their pre-election position that Hunter Biden's Laptop was merely a ruse of Russian Collusion. They stated now there is credibility. Clapper and the entire team that pursued "Russian Collusion" against Trump for four years parroted the Big Lie. The New York Post recently had on their front page the multiple Government operatives that parroted the same lie and offered them a chance to apologize......"CRICKETS".

    Did the Big Lie save the election for Mr' Biden who campaigned from his basement? Would the exposure of the corruption involving Mr. Biden have sunk his chances? I personally think so.

    And a side note: Bill Barr became a hero with Democrats when he denouced President Trump as having no evidence of election fraud. Wonder if they like him now? Brandon lied and Bill knew it.https://nypost.com/2022/03/21/barr-biden-lied-to-the-american-people-about-his-hunters-emails/
     
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    You forgot D None of the above.

    How is the alleged hunter laptop a lie other than calling it Hunter Biden's laptop?
     
  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "Big Lie" was about Hunters laptop.....you know, the one you entertain, that it was Russian Forgery!
     
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    I don't believe the laptop could make or break the 2020 election. There were just too many other things going on and it was clear that then-President Trump was in way over his head. I've read supportive posts about how he was an excellent President prior to the pandemic but I strongly believe his mishandling of that from start to finish was clear to him and many of us looking for him to lead our country through it.

    Does having this information now change anything for anyone? I honestly don't see how it could because former President Trump has decades and decades of fraudulent behavior and it didn't stop people for voting for him. He and his daughter earned millions of dollars from their businesses in China during his term in office. It didn't stop anybody from voting for him a second time.

    So, why would this information change anything for anyone?
     
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    Thanks for the open-minded, well reasoned assessment. :rolleyes:
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More people died of COVID during the Biden Administration than Trump's......talk about mishandling. Trump made his money through the private sector. He invested, he risked, he sometimes lost and he often profited. Biden, on the other hand, paints himself as a humble servant of the people, however he is a multi-millionaire having never worked for anyone but government. Hunter's laptop is a link as to how he did it. Now, as President, Biden is severely compromised. Che and Putin has a lot to hold over his head. Americans are not completely stupid. We were told Trump would have us in a war. In his last 18 months of office, not an American life was lost in Afghanistan. Biden lost 13 in his first several months. Russia invaded Ukraine due to Biden's weakness costing thousands of lives.

    Guess the main point here is, Biden lied to get elected. The media and Deep State backed him up 100%/ Americans are not so stupid to elect a President with so much corruption going on WHO GETS RICH AT THEIR EXPENSE.. Perhaps you need to check out exactly what the laptop revealed and who the "Big Guy" was.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So there is a few who voted Biden was elected "due to his outstanding performance.". During his entire career, can anyone elaborate to exactly what that was? I believe he was always wrong on everything! Even Obama knew that. America just wanted someone they saw as a sweet old Grandpa. Someone who would let them sleep sound at night. The left and the media helped convey that narrative to the naive.

    STAY TUNED FOR THE "hUNTER iNDICTMENT"!
     
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    if it was hunter biden's laptop, and if the information on it is real, hinter is NOT appointed to any position of trust and confidence as were the "senior advisoirs" to trump who were all sentenced to "how not to steal from the trump foundation" charity school. hunter

    as we have said repeatedly, 81 million american citizens voted against trump, the laptop is nothing.
     
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    You forgot the obvious answer choice.

    "NO - If you were going to vote Biden to get rid of a corrupt Trump administration, why would you go back to Trump just because Biden's son is a shitbrain.
     
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    "Hunters laptop" is not about the dope head Hunter. It is about the elected crime boss president of the US. It is about a former president who was impeached for the very thing the laptop contained and represented.
     
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    You can complain about corruption, we all should. But nobody is complaining about corruption, they're only complaining about the corruption of those they don't like. Folks like you sat there during the entire Trump term and didn't care about him being corrupt, both during his term and for the decades before it.

    So now, like I tried telling Trump supporters for years, you no longer have the credibility or the moral standing to complain about political corruption. None at all. You sat there and supported it for four years. And probably voted for it again in 2020.

    And that's where we are as a nation. The only time people care about corruption is when it's the other guy's guy doing it. You've got no right to complain. None. At. All.
     
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    The decision of whether Hunter's notebook was a deciding factor or not a deciding factor should have been left up to the voters.
     
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    Please share with us the "corruption" you think Trump was involved in... please use credible sources and no CNN "" I heard that people familiar with the issue and anonymous sources, unidentified people familiar with the people involved, and a U.S. official familiar with the matter.....coming from a fake news source (maybe CNN, maybe not) with extremely well-placed unnamed sources."" garbage. Trump, Trump, Trump...
     
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    I'm amazed that anyone could look at the conditions under the Trump administration, compare them to the conditions under the Biden administration, and not realize we have the equivalent of trading a Big Mac for a Turd Sandwich.
     
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    please hold these "hunters haptop" stories to those same standards.

    the standard of conduct that i sugned, as did trump and his "senior advisors" mentioned the "appearance of conflict of interest." these standards are required by federal law (5cfr part 2635) and violation certainly constitutes "high crimes and misdemeanors."

    Employees shall endeavor to avoid any actions creating the appearance that they are violating the law or the ethical standards set forth in this part. Whether particular circumstances create an appearance that the law or these standards have been violated shall be determined from the perspective of a reasonable person with knowledge of the relevant facts.

    eCFR :: 5 CFR Part 2635 -- Standards of Ethical Conduct for Employees of the Executive Branch
     
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    Please share with us the "corruption" you think Trump was involved in. How sad a Biden post has turned immediately into a Trump post....
     
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    It's common practice for the MSM to ignore certain news stories when an election is near. They have a history of recommending dems over repubs in their editorials while reporting on bad news for repubs and ignoring bad news on dems. I have watched it for 60 years.
     
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    I've seen a lot of folks take this track. It just cements the idea that the left believed that there wasn't going to be another outcome than a Biden win. Biden admitted this when he said they had the "best team of election fraud people" on his payroll. Of course, those same folks now have to be entirely willing to own the disaster that their candidate has perpetrated on the world. Death, Disease, Economic disaster, etc.
     
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    """The New York Times confirmed that the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop were "authenticated."""

    Where is the evidence the NYT has that confirms it is "authenticate". No one has yet authenticated NYT 's "authentication". When does the NYT gets to "authenticate" something already "authenticated" by the New York Post before the election ever happened?...
     
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    I have seen no arguments it is a Russian forgery. I have heard arguments that it may be a Russian espionage act to get people divided or Joe Biden not reelected. Huge difference.
     
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    It wasn't the NYT that was "authenticating" the laptop, that was the headline of every major conservative news media outlet commenting on the NYT article.

    We discussed this in said thread. I provided the actual NYT article and it did not authernticate anything. The article used "it appears" which is not the same as "it is" or "it is confirmed."
     
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    I go with option D. It wouldn't have made a difference because Trump was universally despised by more than half the Nation that simply wanted him out.

    Is the OP under the assumption that we all voted for old Joe because we liked him? LOL
     
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    The pitiful truth here is that we have allowed politics to degrade to the point where there are no rules. Rules unenforced are window dressing and serve only the purpose of facades. Thus- there are no rules except to pretend there are rules. This also creates a condition that attracts those with no moral standards, and repels those with those standards- insuring that the people we need in office will not want to run for such a position, where the only way to win is to cheat. It's not the exception- it's the prima facie rule of today's political game
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    If we did manage to elect a totally honorable man- he would be like the pigeon in the crooked poker game, the only honest one at the table. That also means- the big loser. Of course, the true big loser- is us; We The People. The answer to all this is not to fight every symptom that corruption creates, but to enforce the rules-and throw anyone who refuses to honor the rules out of the game, on the spot. That never happens.

    Congress has maintained an approval level lower than that of any president, even at times a single digit number. Yet Congress is designed to the the voice of We The People; it makes the laws, oversees all the agencies of government, has control over all the budgets and can, if it will, regulate every other agency of government- yet, it cannot regulate itself, which makes it so dysfunctional it is unable to regulate anything else.... and at the same time, a role model for all the rest, demonstrating the lack of respect for rules and the tolerance of chaos.

    Congress has the authority to discipline itself, but lacks the right mechanism- and the right motivation. I'm hoping to help change that.
     
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    And it was, you know... when the hunter laptop stuff was released just before the election ;) ;) ;)
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to examine the Hunter laptop. He is just low level scum. This is about the "Big Man".....the POTUS!
     

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