The moon landing is fake.

Discussion in 'Moon Landing' started by Yant0s, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    I actually don't give a rat's ass what you believe.

    Incompetent in every field. Your research skills are non existent.

    It took two minutes to find it. Two minutes. And most of that time was actually looking through the section of EVA to find the video. It took me about 20 seconds to find the webpage it is linked on. Find it yourself. Click here for starters.

    Any excuse to spam your horseshit yet again.

    From apollohoax.net, user Headlikearock has made a very significant observation concerning the lens flares on the flag. They actually move alongside the flag itself, the flagpole and parts of the ground. Here is the direct link, and the picture below:-

    http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r81/headlikearock/Apollo 15/flag-wave-new-gif_zps435e5ced.gif

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    Needless to say you always fail to answer that one.

    Number 6:
    Here we have one of my favorites. The cloth from the ceiling, moving TOWARDS the approaching object and not doing so until it is virtually level. Applied to Apollo 15 flag.

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    He always avoids that one as well.

    Clueless as always. Dead easy to find.
     
  2. Scott

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    If you say you have it but you refuse to post it, the viewers are going to suspect that you don't really have it and the footage was in fact deleted from the NASA record.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-moon-landing-is-fake.553296/page-16#post-1072820825

    If you weren't trying to pull the wool over our eyes, you'd post it as that would settle the matter.

    You were shown to be wrong on this issue a long time ago.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-apollo-15-flag.438617/page-3#post-1065728331
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068


    The flag waving in air proves the hoax by itself and the sounds that wouldn't be there in a vacuum prove the hoax all by themselves.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-moon-landing-is-fake.553296/page-15#post-1072797829
    (40:10 time mark)

    The subtle sounds make it especially clear.


    (1:36 time mark)

    Rant all you want. These anomalies are too clear to obfuscate.
     
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  3. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Boy, you're not having a good time are you. First they delete all your 10 years of spam at the basketball forum, now you're getting all angry because I won't post the dead easy to find clip. It hasn't been deleted - you are hopeless. How can you struggle to find it?

    I love the way you include the rest of the world in the matter. It's just you and I am not interested in settling any matter that assists you in spamming.

    Neither of those two spammed links addressed it and neither of those two stupid arguments "showed me to be wrong"..

    Explain it here, otherwise it looks like you are trying to pull the wool over our eyes!

    From apollohoax.net, user Headlikearock has made a very significant observation concerning the lens flares on the flag. They actually move alongside the flag itself, the flagpole and parts of the ground. Here is the direct link, and the picture below:-


    http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r81/headlikearock/Apollo 15/flag-wave-new-gif_zps435e5ced.gif

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    Here we have one of my favorites. The cloth from the ceiling, moving TOWARDS the approaching object and not doing so until it is virtually level. Applied to Apollo 15 flag.

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    He always avoids that one as well.

    No ranting here. You can't answer tabled responses. You appear to be resorting to your usual spamfest to cover your inept posting.

    They aren't anomalies and I laugh at you blundering on these items a decade after they were first raised and dismissed. How come you don't comment on the totally obvious? Are you trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

    Sound on the moon? (apollohoax.net)
    That's the same thing I said a few years ago. Why in the world would you have open microphones on a soundstage that is supposed to represent a VACUUM?

    Noises in the VOX microphones can be made by even slightly harder breaths, such as any extra exertion, like hammering - it all depends on the astronaut's mouth proximity to the mic, and it WOULD be closer when he leans forward in his suit to observe some of the tasks he was working on. Also, the mics at Houston control were open and could make similar sounds just by being adjusted, tapped with a pen, or exhaling close to the mic. As they were voice activated, and designed to filter out background noise, close proximity of the mouth was also required in order to be clear and audible, and often resulted in inadvertent brushing of the lips or chin up against the mic, causing all sorts of odd sounds. I know because I used those type of systems for years during nuclear refueling operations.
     
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    The truth cannot be defeated and prevails in the end. The only way to stop the truth is to censor it. I'm talking about the sound-in-a-vacuum anomaly over at "House of Politics" forum. This is such a clear anomaly that they blocked me from logging in with technical problems. I can't post there any more and it's going to look like I chickened out.

    If there were no censorship on the internet, most Americans would know that the Apollo moon missions were a hoax.
     
  5. Betamax101

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    Ha ha. Seriously? I don't recall you ever posting one single thing that amounted to truth. You spam and spam your incessant garbage and routinely get it deleted then banned. It should tell you something, but it doesn't.

    You think you are being censored, but you aren't. You are a menace for any subject you spew out on. The only way to stop trolls is to delete their gibberish and ban them.

    Yet another forum that has had enough of your crap!

    Only the very dumb people in society, those who have no education believe in things like that. You have got nothing. Every single time you get your ass kicked you run away all afraid to admit you are wrong. People who are gullible enough to believe in Apollo hoaxes and flat earth are usually the same level of intelligence - they simply are too lazy to verify any of it and in your case too afraid to admit they are wrong.

    I find it unbelievable that you are having 3 duplicate exchanges on 3 different forums and avoiding the same major issue on every one of them. You are afraid to answer!

    Sound on the moon? (apollohoax.net)
    That's the same thing I said a few years ago. Why in the world would you have open microphones on a soundstage that is supposed to represent a VACUUM?

    Noises in the VOX microphones can be made by even slightly harder breaths, such as any extra exertion, like hammering - it all depends on the astronaut's mouth proximity to the mic, and it WOULD be closer when he leans forward in his suit to observe some of the tasks he was working on. Also, the mics at Houston control were open and could make similar sounds just by being adjusted, tapped with a pen, or exhaling close to the mic. As they were voice activated, and designed to filter out background noise, close proximity of the mouth was also required in order to be clear and audible, and often resulted in inadvertent brushing of the lips or chin up against the mic, causing all sorts of odd sounds. I know because I used those type of systems for years during nuclear refueling operations.
     
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    Are you crazy man? You are insisting they picked up sounds and now say they didn't have live microphones? You suggest they put the voices on remotely, then offer no reason for why they would then need microphones. You suggest "they got sloppy" which is absurd given the astonishing detail in the Apollo record. You suggest they didn't bother trying to create a vacuum, when virtually the whole video record does just that!

    At some stage it would have been helpful, during your 20 years of failure, to have studied the record properly, or to have taken education on the many disciplines to understand the evidence. But, you? None of that. What now, more of your diversionary spam?
     
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    How many years have Beta and Scott been going at this? ... truly entertaining over the years ...
     
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    No idea why you felt the need to post that, perhaps you should compare it with you and Bob in the never ending dreary 911 saga - that must be even longer.
     
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    I meant that as a compliment ... you have been owning Scott for years now ...
     
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    Do you also think the Black Knight owned the other knight in this video?

    Monty Python - The Black Knight - Tis But A Scratch


    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-chinese-spacewalk-was-faked.578673/#post-1072491826
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-they-are-on-the-moon.580330/#post-1072162665
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...t-claim-of-air-and-the-apollo-15-flag.438617/
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-sir-questions-sir.211182/page-5#post-4770094
     
  12. Betamax101

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    A very poor comparison since you're even worse than either of them! You have no weapons since you rely on your ignorant observations and fail at every level to learn and move on.

    Post number one where like a clown you denied and avoided the "bubble" size increase and tried to divert with some horseshit about me "being sloppy", when I had already firmly clarified my position TEN YEARS PREVIOUS! Epic fail on all fronts. Even now you are unable to explain how the size changes, since it would not do that if going vertical, you know, just like a damn bubble!

    CLICK HERE FROM 2011 "It changes size much more than an object in water would do, in a variant drop in water pressure of 2 feet. This indicates a trajectory towards the camera." No, I didn't get sloppy, you got owned!

    4. THERE is your real credibility test.

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    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!


    This is where like a coward, you deny the totally obvious. Dust striking in unison with the jump, the famous and very moronic "bouncing dust". Shameless and incredibly stupid claim. Owned again.

    Wtf? You put up a link to a post that you have ignored for 6 years! It shows how air behaves and you have no answer to it. Owned.

    Right there is the major difference between you and I. I made a genuine error from looking at a small segment of video, totally irrelevant to your idiotic claim, conceded my irrelevant error and like the dishonest person you are, you thought you could make mileage out of it.


    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: Direct Apollo Proof - Ignored by the serial forum spammer (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
    Number 1: This shows a sequence where the reflection from the Sun is blocked out completely by a very narrow rod. This 100% refutes the stupid claim that it was some sort of massive light.

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    Number 2: Demonstrates 100% that as the light levels in the camera are altered by aperture, so does the size of the blooming on the visor.

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    Number 3: This shows a clear parabolic arc of dust between John Young's boots that is 100% irrefutably rising and falling at the same time as he is. PROVING that he must be on the Moon.

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    Number 4: This is a clear indicator of simultaneous soil dropping at the same speed as the jumper. This is 100% proof he is on the Moon.

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    Number 5:
    This animation is the supposed "duplicate" background claim from the SFS. It shows that the distant mountains are actually just viewed from a more rotated vantage point. He actually denied that they are different and from obviously different places.

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    Number 6:
    Here we have one of my favorites. The cloth from the ceiling, moving TOWARDS the approaching object and not doing so until it is virtually level. Applied to Apollo 15 flag.

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    He must have a little spam folder for his links, because he found one where he actually won a meaningless sub point. If we are applauding each other - the same appears to be the case on 911. The similarity is that never in a million years will a conspiracy theorist concede any of their truly dumb horseshit.
     
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    Scott has a huge catalogue with time stamps galore ... I can't imagine this possible from someone who claims to only post from internet cafes ...

    either way, I would love to meet the guy ... he's been a true character study for me ... although, like I have said way back in the past, I think he gets paid per click ...
     
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    I've often thought that myself. Had I gone into the field of psychiatry, the study and behaviour of conspiracy theorists would have yielded such valuable material. You could do a very large dissertation on such things. There is simply no way to debate with them, they see all matters initially in an adversarial viewpoint. But it quickly becomes a question of evasion and denial. It must be some sort of need for belonging to a group "in the know", when quite clearly in every case, the reverse is true.

    With this cosmored character I have rarely seen such colossal delusion. If he is to be believed, he genuinely thinks he is some sort of truth warrior, when in actual fact he is part of a twisted and pervasive group spreading garbage on the internet. There is now a whole industry of money making sucking funds from gullible people like him. You only have to look at his sources and wonder how anyone can actually believe what he blindly and automatically follows. Fake news seems to be his mantra.

    He must be the only person on the internet who "can't see" the following. This shows a clear parabolic arc of dust between John Young's boots that is 100% irrefutably rising and falling at the same time as he is. PROVING that he must be on the Moon.

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    Just that 2 second clip proves he must be in low gravity - and that is why he will never admit it.
     
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    Spam link. The problem is that you lack any qualification in any field pertaining to any subject discussed in every one of the Moon threads. You don't know the difference between sophistry and data. Not even close. So when somebody with such ignorance claims the former, it indicates how out of their depth they are.
     
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    I had to quit reading when one of your favorite canards came up ... disinfo agents ... also, I am surprised the link even worked considering the word intelligence was misspelled ... but please carry on as you have provided me hours of entertainment over the years ...
     
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    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-they-are-on-the-moon.580330/#post-1072162665
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-they-are-on-the-moon.580330/#post-1072161900

    Betamax is trying to obfuscate this anomaly.

    The Apollo Moon Jump Salute Refute hd
    https://www.brighteon.com/a515dc75-83bb-4e02-aad9-b1cdfe0de150

    Galileo and the Apollo Moon Jump hd
    https://www.brighteon.com/8d21e915-09a2-4e28-83c1-f6f33c9a4199
     
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    In your face and you still deny it, with the amazing bouncing dust. You are a busted flush. Owned

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    Just that 2 second clip proves he must be in low gravity - and that is why you will never admit it.

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    Owned again

    So far:-
    • This jump shows soil falling at the same time as Cernan - no matter what speed it is any honest person can see this.
    • We have astronauts digging a trench with soil being spooned away also impossible to fake - on the Moon.
    • We have the Jump Salute where an isolated gif from better quality footage shows dust once again falling in unison with the astronaut
    • We have a falling lid pushed shut that doesn't disturb one single grain from the entire frontal area covered in dust.
     
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    In your own time, answer the following

    For future reference and for anyone who encounters this person again on their travels, I am going to summarise as much as possible the things he has avoided.

    • He put up a video that had the youtube user "hunchbacked" claiming the LROC pictures were photoshopped, because he found some metadata of a tiny cropped section from the large original transmission. The images posted on the internet are edited tiny segments taken from absolutely massive uncompressed images. Of course they use an imaging software to create this. The originals, TIF files, show no such manipulation.

      Your claim is dismissed, do you have any rebuttal to this?

    • Counter claim about the soil getting up to jump height:
      Video 1 shows a gravitational analysis of the Cernan hopping sequence. I would also state that this is part of a massive unbroken sequence where the astronauts travel hundreds of yards from the rover and cross over numerous times. The analysis proves that the jump is perfectly consistent with lunar gravity. It shows the adjustment for Earth gravity.

      THIS is MY VIDEO!!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSuvW0FRd-U

      Video 2 shows a piece of soil being kicked up - to jump height just like your volleyball player, that hits the ground at the SAME TIME as Cernan. This proves they are not on wires.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG5FuVxDcPU

      Can you explain how this is possible, because the 245% footage is clearly ridiculous?


    • Numerous points raised here - https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...40#post2455240 and none properly responded to. In particular, when given a plausible alternative to his "wall of air" claim, concerning soil striking the flagpole, he dismissed it saying the pole needed to move. Notwithstanding such a tiny movement needs just a tiny pole vibration mot necessarily visible, the rod DOES move. I posted a video of it and he said the video was doctored because he couldn't see it with his mouse! I asked him to prove it was doctored. He ignored this.

      Neither of your videos precludes two events. I don't know what causes the initial movement, but it isn't air, because air doesn't behave that way from so far away. I suspect he simply kicked a bit of soil along the ground, something like this at 21 seconds...


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyOt6RUs9mE

      The flagpole moving:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4gbMT-Zs2Y

    • From post#56, he conceded that they were lens flares, he conceded that the Apollo 14 footage looked doctored. He then posted a ludicrous video about the LRV being a model! His claim amounts to 3 things:-

      1. The astronaut is not moving. So what, why should he?
      2. The soil is different colours. Phase angle changes to retro-reflective surface.
      3. It is comparable to front screen projection on 2001. Ridiculous observation. This was a fixed shot, the moon footage is moving constantly. It is this, more than anything that makes me question his credentials or motive.
      Direct questions:

      Can you verify his credentials please?
      How do his alleged credentials allow him the skillset to pose a credible analysis?

    • Concerning his nonsense claim about the flap on the LRV Apollo 15 traverse, he claimed the sky was blackened ON AN IMAGE using modern software! My reply, unanswered:

      So your method involves using modern digital software on a single image, to create a 20fps video in 1971? Forgive me if I ask you to try again!

      It is a continuous video with mountains that don't get any nearer over several miles. The surface is lit for as far as can be seen. The sky is black. When the rover turns across Sun, the phase angle of the Moon changes and the whole surface is less reflective.

      Can you explain in detail how that could possibly be done?

    • Concerning the Apollo 15 flag movement. He claimed the following are ruled out:

      Show me exactly where these are ruled out:

      1. Video artefact blooming.
      2. Flagpole settling in stand.
      3. Static discharge.
      4. Kicked soil striking the bottom of the pole sending small vibration.

      Do NOT post another video, especially when you seem to think Jarrah White rubbing a balloon against his head rules out the enormous static discharges that can occur in a vacuum!

      He then posted a video of that very thing!

    Quite breath taking how he can have the audacity to roll up yet again and post the same stuff he has already posted here about 50 times, whilst avoiding so much aimed at him from another forum, from the same spam.
     

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