The course of a couple of threads have delved into the idea of resistance to governmental tyranny, and have resulted in some combative exchanges about which side is the one guilty of "treason". When the citizens of the original 13 colonies found themselves faced with heavy-handed government restrictions upon their rights and freedoms, and growing abuses by the ruling elite, they responded through protests, lobbying of their political leadership for relief, and ultimately they resorted to acts of resistance that coalesced into open rebellion and ultimately Revolution. Their British overloads, of course, cursed them as traitors and engaged in brutal suppression of the populace to quell the growing insurgency. All they achieved, of course, was further inflammation of the populace, and ultimately, their own defeat. The Founders of this nation created a Constitution to form a government that respected people's rights, freedoms, and liberty. They spoke of our rights as inalienable, and intrinsic to ourselves as free people. Today, people of a certain political bent push laws contrary to that Constitution and advocate for infringements of the rights of their fellow citizens in the name of "making people safer"... and they sneer and denigrate and insult those who oppose their agenda. They say our rights are privileges that are readily revocable upon the whim of government. They say our rights are "not absolute". They reject that our rights were "endowed upon us at birth by our Creator". When those of us who value our rights say we do not wish our rights infringed, we are belittled and condemned as "extremists", and told our rights are not our own and we have no standing to resist. They mock us with threats of using whatever weapons the government might have on hand to destroy us if we dare oppose them. Our Founders were told the same thing, and when they said they were willing to defend their rights, their enemies called them "traitors" and dismissed them and their concerns... and were shocked when the Founders refused to back down and fought back against their tyranny instead. Now, again, there are those who want to infringe upon our rights or even strip them from us outright. We say no. They sneer and insult us and say we have no right to resist. We say we will resist by any means necessary ... and they call us "traitors" just like they called our Founders "traitors", and in the process reveal themselves for what they truly are.
Seeing as so many are dead set on the belief that it is their duty to resist Donald Trump as president of the united states, these individuals have absolutely no grounds to complain about those who resist useless laws that are enacted for no legitimate reason.
why does this guy keep posting threads and posts about violent rebellion against the govt? some sort of silly sick childish fantasy? and I quote:
Yep. I hit a point of extreme frustration with dealing with the likes of you, and started asking why I kept going on. So, I decided to walk away. But.... well, I would check back to read other posts occasionally, and sometimes the outlandish nonsense you and your ilk were putting up just begged to be responded to and I guess I just couldn't help myself, so I resumed posting. I do take some pleasure in knowing how much that offends you. As to why I post discussions regarding rebellion is to remind the totalitarians around here that the spirit of resistance is alive and well... and I would just hate for the arrogant and uninformed to go on pushing their authoritarian agendas without knowing that doing so would bring consequences. The frantic efforts of the authoritarians to mock and dismiss the idea of any kind of resistance being successful just shows me how terrified they are of the possibilities.
u dont get it, do you? we laugh at your obsessive comments and threads about violent resistance. why? cause we know they are simply symptomatic of some deeper personal emotional frustration over some private issues, that have nothing to do with guns or tyranny or government. i mean seriously, your commrade in this topic has stated that he believes human life has ZERO value, HIS life specifically has ZERO value, and people should be free to commit suicide willy nilly. i mean, seriously, how do you guys expect us to react to such nonsense?
u dont get it, do you? we laugh at your obsessive comments and threads about violent resistance. why? cause we know they are simply symptomatic of some deeper personal emotional frustration over some private issues, that have nothing to do with guns or tyranny or government. i mean seriously, your commrade in this topic has stated that he believes human life has ZERO value, HIS life specifically has ZERO value, and people should be free to commit suicide willy nilly. i mean, seriously, how do you guys expect us to react to such nonsense?
Trust me: I'm not the one who doesn't "get it", Ron. Who's "we", Ron? I love how guys like you want to pretend you represent some kind of overwhelming majority; like no sane person could ever possibly see the world differently than you do. w You are incapable of understanding anyone who thinks differently than you, and the arrogance intrinsic to your presumption about it is beyond laughable. I can't speak to another's viewpoints. I believe human life is infinitely valuable, and the freedom to defend it is one of our most important civil rights. Suicide is tragic, and a painful issue for anyone.... but in the end it is ultimately a personal choice. Really? Are you serious?? You advocate for a series of policies based in the limitation of or even the outright elimination of what many of your fellow citizens see as an important and fundamental right. When people speak out against such policy proposals, you sneer at them, mock and denigrate them, and basically tell them that you don't care if they think it's a right; you're going to go right over the top of them to see your policies implemented. Imagine someone saying they're going to strip you of your right of free speech, or to a fair and speedy trial, or any other Constitutional right... and your response is to speak to them as you speak to me? And you're surprised when we recognize that you have no respect for our rights or our beliefs, and we tell you that we don't care if you respect our rights or not; we'll just use force if we have to in the name of protecting those rights you hold in contempt? How do you expect us to react?
And he did this based on his extensive expertise in the area of mental illness and psychological disorder classification???
Jeff Cooper is clear a hoplophile. He feels his guns are an extension of his manhood. Literally. Perhaps he is insecure about the strength or even size, of his physical manhood?
If the people of any of the states in the union feels as if their rights are being violated by the general government, I don't see why they simply don't peacefully leave the union.
This nonsense of an armed rebellion against the US government and military is just silly. Any uprising would swiftly be put down by local law enforcement. The only constitutional remedy to redress a grievance with the government is the judiciary. If that doesn’t go your way, then you have to amend the constitution.
I just did a quick text scan of the document, and neither texas nor white show up. What language in the constitution prevents any state from leaving the union.
The words you wrote: "https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/74/700" are meaningless. You are still unable to show everyone the language in the constitution that forbids any state from leaving the union.
