I am just almost finished watching this video. This is what I have long sought. Not mumbo jumbo in a political fashion, but a genuine scientist able to explain this and including the mathematics. What a breath of fresh air. He did not mention religion. His only comment politically is it is submitted to the Trump team for consideration. You guys will waste months or years chatting this up. Watch one video and you ought to get it. Caution, he is going to show you some calculus. Do not let that scare you. Calculus is extremely good solving problems where there is change. Static conditions is where you can use what is called math. But if you need to, watch it several times. This is very scientific. The man talking used this math on space stations. They had to understand what happens as a space station moves around earth where it is rotating. What paint would you put on the station to keep astronauts safe. This is serious. Some might wish to pick part and focus on that and discuss. I am open to all comers.
Granny gets out the willow switch when possum leaves the 'fridge door open... Freezer failure sees 22,000 years of history evaporate Tue, Apr 18, 2017 - Within them sits about 80,000 years of history, offering researchers tantalizing clues about climate change and the Earth’s past. At least that was the case — until the precious cache of Arctic ice cores was hit by warming temperatures.
I have a video that shows Dr. Jennifer Marohasy, from Australia debunking the current theory as well.
People make videos when their crackpot theories can't get published. Science is not do-it-yourself. I'm sorry but the real world isn't simple.
There are "convincing" videos by "experts" showing the moon landings were faked, or that 9/11 was an inside job, and I don't believe them, either. I'll go with reputable experts in large numbers, thank you.
... And a tunnel to the inner earth exists at the North Pole, there are alien bases on the moon, and the earth is flat, the earth is hollow, Einstein was wrong, the government is hiding infinite energy sources, an aircraft carrier was transported back in time... And let's not forget, Ted Cruz's dad helped assassinate Kennedy! Whoops, can't forget the Illuminate and the Free Masons! They really run everything.
Well, you don't get to watch Climate scientists at work, doya? But the video you sniffed at is by an Engineer that retired from NASA and is very well acquainted with science and has formulas about the important parts of climate research. I trust you refused to view it since your mind is made up. I suspect you voted for Clinton. Towards the end of the discussion, where many highly trained scientists were watching him, he gave them all the formula used to calculate this to a super good accuracy. His formula actually matches the observed climate as opposed to the alarmists models that are well too high to be useful. You trusted him at NASA and I trust his math.
No I read published papers. You make videos when everyone who actually understands the science knows you're full of crap. There is a process of checks and balances for science - experimentation or modeling, publication, peer review, duplication. That is why computers and rockets and particle accelerators work. You want to avoid that system to find arguments you like.
My video came about due to NASA having super well trained and experienced engineers that understand heat in systems. Climate operates that way. Do not expect him to claim landings were faked. He never said what he thinks about 911. Go with the reputable experts. I have been flooding this thread with plenty of them. Heck, to help out one poster, I even picked up help from Australia.
Look, I have refrained from cleaning your clock. I have been congratulated for taking the abuse of around 6 posters or so. I work to give all accurate material. It passes the sniff test. I show the formulas used. Who else does that for you? I use actual experts videos. None are of my creation.
I see TWO links. Hardly a flood. An Engineer does not equal a climate scientist. I am an electrical engineer - I am good but do not claim to be an expert on anything, except maybe spotting BS artists.
Would you agree that a NASA engineer could well understand climate science and understand how to use the calculus formulas to solve problems? I have posted maybe 2 dozen links. This is not the sole thread on this. I am no electrical engineer but I believe I can still have an intelligent discussion with you on electronics. See, I was going to be one myself at one point in life. I had plenty of requisite courses and kept up on this enjoyable field. I too can spot BS artists so i pick very carefully the videos I present or I just pass along the research. I don't do the research but make it available. What puzzles me is why i get nonsense from Democrats /their sympathizers but not those who truly worked hard over many years to grasp this topic.
What puzzles me is why you find hard to believe what is so obvious to me. Seriously. I fail to see why so many scientists would perpetrate a hoax. What motive would they have? I can understand a few crackpots taking an alternate reality, they want attention. Another scientist saying CO2 is bad is not news, one saying it is a hoax is news.
First, I hear the chatter. I fail to find evidence. I also did a back and forth with Dr. Lindzen. A lot of the claims worried me and I wanted his expert opinion. I don't believe there as many scientists willing to do this hoax as is let on. Second there is huge incomes so long as you believe and promote it. Scientists are people needing money too. Dr. Curry takes the honest role as does Dr. Lindzen. Frankly were they persuaded, they would persuade me and you. Take you for instance. You said you are an Electrical Engineer. Were I to tell the forum you studied calculus and physics and chemistry and more, would you expect me to get called a liar? Me backing you up is not a lie. I realize what electrical engineers do. I can't fully figure out the liars but it looks political to my eyes.
How do you figure? I knew professors who had grants to study. They would never get rich from a grant, and the Grant was to study something- they would get the money whether the results showed one thing or another - as long as they took good data. Money came from being published and getting tenure and a "chair" - but no academic I knew was well off unless they had money from family or marriage. I remember I was making more money than the head of the Computer Science Department of Moravian College - okay, he got free housing - and I was doing okay, but far from rich myself.
I am influenced by a number of climate scientists that reported when they did not agree, their grants ended and their voices were stilled. I get your points however and since i never got grants, figure I won't overstep what I know.
Their grants may not have been renewed even if they did agree. I don't know how "their voices were stilled". There is a lot of "politics" in academia - but it is cliques, friendship and ego politics, not right/left or GOP/Dem politics. I am going back several decades, I cannot say for certain things haven't changed. Most full professors I knew were there for love of the subject, not money. Most knew they could make more money in industry, but some found a new crop of coeds every year was worth it.
I bet those coeds make life more pleasant. I had not thought of that. I would have worked to be a college teacher. LOL Where did you go to college? Was it using your GI education benefits? I got about 1 year and a few months worth. I got my DD214 late in January 64 and then had zero benefits. Vietnam finally brought back the benefits. I got what was left in 1972 I believe. I still have a VA loan eligibility. You can use that more than one time so long as the loan is paid off first.
I got approx. $50/mo for GI Bill college benefits. I thought "Gee, I can buy A book". Wife and I had student loans we paid off after we were married. My house is on a VA loan. The best part is now showing my VA card I get 10% off at Lowes. (Home Depot is hit-or-miss. Some Items no discount, some stores have more restrictions than others - Lowes everything 10% off all stores). I have a BSEE from NY Inst Technology, and an MSCS from Columbia U. (the Masters was paid for by company I worked for - back then that was fairly common). I spent a lot of years, because I was working evenings and taking courses during the day, and school takes a lot longer that way. I put all 3 of my kids thru college and set them off debt free with a good used car, and was glad I was able to do it. - Anything further we should take offline in conversation - I suspect nobody else finds this interesting (maybe even Robert doesn't).
You have posted so much BS nonsense in the past. Do you really think that any AGW supporters are going to watch a one hour denier video? Really? Instead of watching the video I Googled your harold h doiron phd. Like most of your other experts, Harold has no credentials in the field of Climatology. Harold H. Doiron Credentials Ph.D., Mechanical Engineering, University of Houston (1970). [1] B.S., Physics, Mathematics, University of Louisiana at Lafayette (1963). [1] Dr. Harold H. Doiron is one of the 49 retired NASA science deniers (they couldn't even get to 50 out of all the thousands of retired NASA employees!) Here is his own LinkedIn profile Experience President Harold H. Doiron, PhD July 2008 – Present (8 years 10 months) Provides consulting services to government and industry clients for fluid and structural dynamics problems. Specializes in Root Cause determination of complex systems dynamic problems and system modifications to eliminate problems. Specialist in prevention of pogo vibration instabilities in liquid propellant launch vehicles and vibrations in piping systems, as well as, other complex systems instabilities involving fluids, structures and mechanisms, such as anti-skid brake systems, pressure regulators, combustion instabilities, aerodynamic flutter and control system instabilities. Robert, I could suggest that you need to try a little harder to find qualified sources, but I think you really do try hard. The reasons your efforts fail isn't from your lack of trying. It's just that there are no qualified sources on your side. That should make you think about your position. It should, but it won't. You deny AGW for the same reason you deny ToE.
