The Navy's Brigs : Will Trump end bread and water?

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Donor

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    I sure hope not...the U.S. Navy has become the most politically correct branch of the services with way to many snowflakes who think they are sailors who can't even row a boat.

    First the liberals ended a long time tradition of the drumming out of the service for those who were awarded a Bad Chicken Dinner or a Dishonorable Discharge.

    Then in the early 1970's liberals in Congress said that Navy/Marine RED LINE BRIGS and Army Red Line Stockades were politically incorrect after a Congressional investigation of the infamous Camp Pendelton brig which was a red line brig.

    Now snowflake sailors who screw up and are sentenced to three days of bread and water in the brig can't fins a safe space and are whining.

    Two sources here just published in "Navy Times."

    So what's your thoughts ?
    Any vets who have any good stories who ended up in the brig or stockade ?










     
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    Let's here some good stories from you seamen
     
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    There has to be some old swabbies who did some brig time before the U.S. Navy went politically correct and was feminized.

    There are a few stories online.


    I chased a fair amount of prisoners. One time I was transporting a guy I had gone to boot camp with from the brig to his court marshal. He asked me what I would do if he jumped out and took off running. I told him I would shoot him. He said "but we're friends". I told him if he were my friend he wouldn't put me in that position and make me serve his time. When my driver slowed at a grade the guy jumped out. I racked a round into my Model 12 and he turned white. Then he climbed back into the vehicle. To this day I am grateful that he didn't put me to the final test...
     
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    Long time coming. I went through basic training in the Air Force in 1971. At that time if you put your wet clothes in a plastic bag and were caught you had to walk through the barracks with your clothes bag over your head saying I am a dumb ****. I visited about 10 years later and told my wife during the tour what happened and the instructor said "oh no we would never do that." He was serious.
     
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    The Air Force went to being politically correct in just ten years ?

    Is it true that back in the day if an airman was sentence to doing more than 30 days they did their time in an Army stockade ? That's what I've heard.
     
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    Kinda appears today's snowflake sailors can't handle being brig rats in today's PC brigs.

    Just think if Hillary were have won the election. :eyepopping:

    They would be adding safe spaces in every brig for these snowflake sailors and issuing weekend liberty passes for every prisoner.

    Just for the fun of it they should paint a red line down the passage ways in every brig just to watch these snowflakes piss in their panties.
     
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    I heard Obama awarded gold star stickers to people who refuse orders from their superiors
     
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    Considering the example of the Shiloh and how the practice can be abused by shitty commanders with zero oversight, yeah, maybe its time for it to go.
     
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    Remember back in 2010 when it was proposed issuing a medal for not shooting at the enemy ? It was suppose to be the "Couragoeus Restraint Medal." Getting a medal for not killing the enemy. -> http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/13/military-proposes-medal-for-troops-showing-restraint/


    Just to add a little humor to political correctness being shoved up the ass of the military by the loony left.
     
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    Bread and water are a form of torture.

    Everyone deserves at least one box of C-rats per day and as much fresh water as he/she can drink.
     
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    We used to call them squidlies.
     
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    But it would be a big mistake to call a frog a squidly.

    And it's Mr. Frog.
     
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    We used to call them Zoomies.

    Capital Z.

    They get paid extra for zooming.
     
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    We used to call U.S. Army soldiers flies because they eat sh!t and bother people.
     
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    And Coasties are Coasties.
     
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    Maybe some sort of compromise can be reached with the Liberals: How about adding tofu and broccoli to their diet?
     
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    How was the system abused ?

    The USS Shilo is a cruiser. If it were nave been before when President Clinton over downsized the military the USS Shilo would have a Marine detachment aboard the Shilo who would have been in charge of running the ship's brig.

    Three days of bread and water would be like Disneyland compared to what spending one hour in a brig run by Marines.

    The Captain of the Shilo does seem to be going overboard with NJP. But maybe the sailor in question is a shitbird ?

    Drinking under age !!! :roflol: When I served anyone who was busted by local LE for drinking under age ...no office hours "standing before the man" an Article 15. In the Marine Corps if you were old enough to be sent to Vietnam, you were old enough to drink.

    Now missing formation would be an UA (Unauthorized Absence) and you would find yourself standing before the man. Reduction in rank by one grade, forfeiture of 1/2 months pay and no liberty for one month. No brig time.
     
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    That's right, "Zoomies."
     
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    You have your answer right there. The Commander of the Shiloh was sadistic, incompetent, or both. The Navy should have listened to the sailors under his command earlier and relieved him.
     
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    Being locked up in the brig with bread and water sure beats some of the smoke sessions I received for screwing up
     

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