The New Climate Reality

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  1. MiaBleu

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    How 'Goldilocks' conditions fueled Kentucky's devastating tornado

    The tornadoes that ripped through parts of the South and the Midwest over the weekend had all the trappings of devastating storms that typically strike in the spring at the height of tornado season, but experts say climate change is loading the dice for severe storms to occur off-season by creating the right environments and atmospheric conditions.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/sci...d9091aa0bbf4ef284dc0ddf7d4abb252027c596581efa
     
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    Yet another misleading claim since this has happened a number of times in the past and it was COLD air that caused the storm to be that dangerous.

    It is so irrational to jump on a single storm to advance a claim it is all the fault of climate change.

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    Tornado counts have DECLINED over the decades.
     
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    Here are the facts that needs to be aware of since MSM are incompetent in dispensing the relevant facts to weather events because they INTEND to mislead their readers.

    American Thinker

    December 15, 2021
    Joe Biden vs. the Tornados
    By Anthony Watts

    Excerpt:

    Speaking in Wilmington, Delaware on Saturday, President Joe Biden blamed the recent deadly tornado outbreak in Kentucky on “climate change.” Biden stated, “The fact is we all know everything is more intense when the climate is warming and obviously it has some impact here.”

    Biden’s statement is laughably inept and easily disproved. All one has to do is look past the opinions, pronouncements, and hand waving and concentrate on what science and data actually say about the issues.

    First, the top five deadliest tornadoes in America all occurred between 1840 and 1936. The Great Natchez Tornado on May 7, 1840, killed 317 people, and was the second-deadliest tornado in U.S. history. The deadliest was the March 18, 1925 Tri-State Tornado, which was also the longest-tracked tornado in U.S. history. The massive F5 tornado traveled 219 mi (352 km) across Missouri, Illinois, and Indiana, killing 695 people.

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    This one from an active PHD Meteorologist

    Cliff Mass Weather Blog

    December 12, 2021

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    A Critical Gap in Tornado Warning Technology: Lessons of the Recent Tornado Outbreak

    A terrible tragedy occurred on Friday evening, as strong tornadoes struck across a multi-state swath from Arkansas through Kentucky. Early estimates suggest that 50-100 individuals lost their lives and hundreds were injured.

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    A destroyed candle factory in hard-hit Mayfield, Kentucky

    The death toll was undoubtedly enhanced by the nighttime occurrence of these storms and their development during the winter season, which is unusual but not unprecedented. The storms occurred in two coherent lines oriented southwest to northeast, as shown by the tornado reports (red dots) provided by the NOAA/NWS storm prediction center. For reference, the tornadoes hit Mayfield, KY around 10 PM Friday evening.

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    Two recent winter events of Feb 2017 and November 2013 are pointed out happening in the same region.
     
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    Thanks
     
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    Yeah, he is lying a lot!

    The NOAA Tornado data doesn't support his lies at all.

    The man is pathetic.
     
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    Dr. Mass makes an excellent case that the claim global warming made this storm is unfounded and in direct contradiction to the NOAA Tornado data.

    Cliff Mass Weather Blog

    Were the Recent Tornadoes the Result of Global Warming?

    December 16, 2021

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    The Media and Dr. Mann are full of crap.
     
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    'We're failing terribly': Colorado's revered ski slopes face a major threat

    Home to some of the most iconic names in world-class downhill skiing — such as Vail, Aspen and Snowmass — Colorado's once-robust ski industry could face permanently shortened seasons in coming decades if large strides aren't made to fight climate change, experts warn.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...BNjYPRhNjNmEGqRQb25LQ4zKNM4VN/gJFy3sCJgEAAA==
     
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    There is plenty of snow in Colorado.
    Colorado Snow Report | OnTheSnow
    https://www.onthesnow.com › colorado › skireport


    See latest Colorado ski conditions, updated daily with snowfall totals, snow depths, open lifts & terrain for all ski resorts in Colorado.
     
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    "Could." It could also benefit from longer seasons, no matter if any strides to fight climate change are made or not.
     
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    Glaciers are advancing.
    More Evidence: Glaciers Existing Today Were Absent For Nearly All Of The Last 10,000 Years
    By Kenneth Richard on 27. December 2021

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    The cryosphere is failing to cooperate with the anthropogenic global warming narrative that says rising greenhouse gas emissions should be catastrophically melting Arctic ice.
    Scientists (O’Regan et al., 2021) report Ryder Glacier in north Greenland has advanced 2,881 m from 1948-2015 given its advancing rate of 43 m/yr-1. Its modern ice extent is about 50 km greater than 6,300 years ago.

    Nearby, the ~60 km-tongued Petermann Glacier, didn’t even exist during the Roman Warm Period. As the chart on the bottom right of the image below shows, there was no ice in this region for all but a few centuries of the Holocene prior to 2,000 years ago. Petermann’s Little Ice Age size was similar to its modern condition.

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    Image Source: O’Regan et al., 2021 . . . .
     
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    20+ degrees higher:
     
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    A number of claimed Arctic temperature records had to be walked back later.
     
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    Since Alaska is a cold state a warming trend there is GOOD for life there.
     
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    40 percent of Americans live in places that experienced a climate-related disaster in 2021

    Fires, floods and other climate-related crises hit 820 counties where 135 million Americans live, according to a Post analysis of federal disaster data. More than 80 percent of the country also experienced a heat wave in the past 12 months.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim...0.Gzg2XXh1l5OYyOafDL2u46JfCLKoaSh0QHX3arkIaj0
     
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    Yawnnnnnnn.... Zzzzzzz.................

    They have all existed before nothing special going on. This was addressed repeatedly here,

    (LINK) Where Is The “Climate Emergency”? (LINK)
     
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    Except whatever the disasters were, they were not climate related.
     
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    In your view , are these extreme events just "normal" climate conditions??
     
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    She doesn't know the difference between Weather and Climate and doesn't realize NASA, NOAA, Satellite data isn't supporting wapo junk paper.

    The article (LINK) Where Is The “Climate Emergency”? (LINK) has become my favorite FLYPAPER for the warmist/alarmist camp who run away from the barrage of data from the NOAA, NASA, Satellite Data and many more official database centers listed in the article.

    They can't handle the truth that there is NO climate emergency, it is a media created lie.
     
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    So the extreme weather events are not a result of climate change?? In your view , what would constitute a climate change effect??
     
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    Yes, they are simply weather.
     

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