Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Jan 11, 2019.
I forgot one...........the one you just used........the false equivalence.
Math calisthenics. It's not enough that Trump is lying, now his supporters are making up even more ridiculous stories.
A lie is a lie is a lie.
If that is the case we don't need 5.7 billion dollars. See how easy that was solved.
Hmm, so he never said directly. More TDS.
OR. Here is an idea.
We hold businesses who HIRE illegals accountable, and punish them. We can skip spending the 5 initial billion ( most cost estimates run it up into the 40-70 billion dollar range over time )
If we stop the reason they come here in he first place, they will stop coming.
If Mexico is paying for the wall either directly or indirectly why do we need 5,7 billion? If the answer is we need it to start now then what is the plan to reimburse the treasury when the Mexican money/savings comes in?
And how, exactly, does Mexico "indirectly" pay for a wall? LOL
Stop trying to be logical. Trumpists will have none of that!
I like it. We can also eliminate birthright citizenship where neither parent is a citizen, and deny public services to anyone here illegally. That should do it.
I like it too! These seem like obvious measures. Why isn't trump pounding the table over anything that will actually work?
Maybe to a point. For example, I wouldnt be okay if an illegal showed up at say, a hospital with a gunshoot wound, letting them die out on the sidewalk.
Im not out to be cruel to anyone.
Because he has a vested interest in keeping his base afraid and angry.
Its the only way he can win an election.
Liars do not recognize lies....it's such a deeply ingrained part of their lives...
Maybe require landlords to use e-verify to deny housing to illegals?
The message should be: "if you come here illegally, you will find the US a wholly inhospitable place to be".
No education, no healthcare, no government assistance, no housing, no jobs, no police or fire assistance. Nothing.
The defacto message would then become: "do what it takes to legally immigrate, and the bounty the US has to offer is yours."
Maybe then a physical barrier would become less important.
The physical barrier thing is completely stupid. They work in certain areas and are completely ineffective in others. We ALREADY have barriers in strategic areas. But yeah, remove the incentive to come here illegally and they won't come. I couldn't agree more.
That said, I'm all for revamping our immigration policies so it's isn't such an onerous process. I'm even for things like temporary work permits or the like. But if your here you need to be here legally.
This should be an easy question to resolve
Just post the video of trump saying that mexico will write a check
Trump has explained that but the TDS sufferers are more hung up on their own narrative than the facts.
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