"The New Normal"

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  1. pjohns

    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    Frankly, I am growing rather weary of all the "social distancing"; and "mask wearing"; and lengthy vehicle lines at the bank (requiring at least 30 or 45 minutes to navigate), because its lobby is not now open; and even "new regulations" put in place because of Covid-19. (My wife had surgery on her knee today; and her son--who took her--and I could not both visit her at the same time; only one visitor allowed.)

    I am starting to wonder when we will return to the status quo ante. Or if this is intended--permanently!--to represent The New Normal...
     
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    When we get a workable and mass produced vaccine.
     
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    There's no such thing as "the new normal." Ask a Swede if they have had to adjust to a new normal by their government. The answer you will hear is no, because a new normal is not necessary.
     
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    Sweden hasn't had to wait for a "workable and mass produced vaccine," and if you look at stats, you'll see a sharp decline in cases from when their cases spiked in late May. Schools never shut down, restaurants never shut down, yet Sweden still pulled it off without using a vaccine as an excuse to reduce their citizens livelihoods. Our governors must be making for good comedy in Sweden right now.
     
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    A) The United States could never pull off Sweden's plan because there are a significant and varied number of differences between the United States and Sweden, including the fact that a near majority of Swedish citizens live in a home by themselves.
    B) Sweden's plan has been a significant failure as evidenced by their economic and Covid-19 numbers compared against their closest geographical comparables
     
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    Sweden closed colleges, banned mass gatherings, shut down theatres and implemented social distancing with compliance at 80-90%.
    The only real difference between Sweden and many other countries is that the Swedes complied voluntarily so there was no need to enforce social distancing by law.
    I've lost count of how many times I've pointed this out but still Sweden is falsely used as ''evidence'' that the shut down was unnecessary.
     
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    Hopefully and probably true.
     
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    I think everyone is tired of this. I'm so sick of our 21-year old - he used to be home to sleep and grab food, now he's here 24/7. I want to punch him in the throat. (kidding/not kidding/sort of kidding...)

    Florida re-opened two weeks ago, and as of five days ago, our daily new cases are topping any day previous. It's hard to know if it's increased testing or because people are being less careful. It's probably a combo deal.

    The parks in Orlando are all opening up. I see good times (not) ahead.

    We're staying put as long as we can.
     
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    No this is not the new normal. The knees knockers will try and make it so but it’s already falling apart for them. The riots killed the lockdown. How ironic is that? The lefties did exactly what they feared the right would do.

    Clown shoes must be what all liberal babies leave the hospital wearing, they just can’t not seem to stop tripping over their own feet. :)
     
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    When do you plan on attending your next indoor concert or sporting event?
     
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    Trump's rally spot holds 20K people, and it's not enough, so they are looking for an overflow venue. It makes me teeth itch. I can't imagine what these people are thinking.
     
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    Freedom to support the politician of their choice perhaps? :)

    That’s fear making your teeth itch, gotta learn to control that or it’s gonna ruin your day...
     
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    I'm going to bet that getting covid-19 will ruin the lives of several of these supporters.
     
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    Uh, oh, the sacrifice of having to wait in line at the bank for a few minutes. What has the world come to....
     
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    It is a virtual guarantee that there will be covid spreaders among those 20k. Those attendees are rolling the dice, playing Russian Roulette with their lives. And for what? To hear Trump peddle his snake oil?
     
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    It will remain the "new normal" until ten minutes after the election or at lease until Stacey Abrams declares the democrats actually lost.
     
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    If it's going to wait until after Stacey Abrams announces that the democrats lost, doesn't that mean that the "new normal" has ended because Trump won his second term and no longer has to even care about the health of his supporters?
     
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    For what? To be part of something larger than themselves, the same reason people risked infection for the sake of a junkie who died during a police encounter.

    Leftists boast about their empathy, the ability to understand and share the feelings of another, but don't really have it.

    People who gather in large groups to celebrate a common cause is a heady feeling. Perhaps you've experienced it yourself and if you have you do know why they are attending a Trump rally.
     
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    Scientific research shows that wearing a BLM shirt prevents transmission of covid19, even in crowds!
     
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    And that is probably another 12 to 18 months away.

    Do you really imagine that Americans will put up with this for that much longer? (Perhaps in some especially hard-hit places--such as New York City--they might; and especially since that is a very liberal area, anyway.)

    But do you really believe that in that vast area between the East Coast and the West Coast, the majority of people will meekly surrender to this New Normal for that much longer?
     
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    I don't imagine they will have much of a choice in the matter. Conservative areas that get hit hard by this virus react the same way as liberal areas. See Albany, GA which was hit tremendously hard very early on.

    When you see your friends and relatives suffering and dying, you change your behavior rather quickly. And even if they don't see or feel the impact of the virus personally, the organizations worried about legal liability will continue to limit themselves.
     
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    Well, I suppose that you could term 30 or 45 minutes just "a few minutes." But that is 30 or 45 minutes--times several times per week--that I will never get back.

    Moreover, most other banks and credit unions in the city are now open. (I have over $143,000 in savings in a credit union that is now open; so I may just move my checking there.)

    And since the possibility of my dying from Covid-19--even if no precautions are taken--is probably less than my chance of dying from a lightning strike, I really do not see why that "sacrifice" is necessary--or even marginally justified.
     
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    We've had a workable and mass produced flu vaccine since 1945, yet every year about 40,000 in the US still die from the flu.
     
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    I am aware of no "friend" or "relative" of mine who has even caught the virus--let alone died from it.

    In fact, I am not even aware of a distant acquaintance who has done so.

    Well, as I pointed out previously, most banks and credit unions in this city are now open...
     
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    Do we have a workable and mass produced vaccine for covid - the virus which is extremely contagious and more lethal than the flu? No?

    Then I stand by my assertion that the "new normal" will end once that takes place.
     
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