Your failure to read what I actually posted is not my problem. But once again I appreciate your posts PROVING that my observations regarding gun owners/obsessed are 100% accurate.
Needless to say you are unaware of just how IRONIC that PROJECTION of yours actually is given that I PREDICTED exactly this kneejerk reaction earlier in the thread.
Incorrect, anti-Constitutional rights grabbing laws must be defeated. That stated I am done with you.
Prediction accurate right down to the use of the same old puerile terminology! Now if I was to stoop to your level I would accuse you of "running away" but that would be silly since we both know that you are not going anywhere. You will continue to post the exact same tripe defending the nefarious agenda of the NRA that is causing so much harm to We the People. Have a nice day!
Gee, you must really HATE Republicans Reagan and Bush for taking guns away from law abiding citizens.
ironic that right wingers condemn Progressives for government denial of guns rights when it was Reagan who denied this right to the Black Panthers and Bush who did the same in NOLA
Hughes amendment which Reagan was around for the intro into FOPA of and raised no hell about and then when he was out Bush signed into law. Were you not aware of that ****? **** both of them with vipers.
Denying guns for the Black Panthers was probably a good idea considering how violent they where and it was not Bush's decision to disarm citizens of New Orleans, in fact Bush signed bipartisan legislation to prohibit such from being done during any future disasters. And in the end a lawsuit by the NRA managed to have the majority of those guns turned back over to their rightful owners.
There is nothing reasonable about the various proposals that have been presented, as each firearm-related restriction that has been addressed fails to address or even acknowledge the basic, underlying problem that is being faced. Until such time that problem is addressed seriously, there is no reason to discuss meaningless drivel presented by those who wish to ignore the problem.
No order was given by George Bush to confiscate any firearms during the aftermath of Katrina. The confiscation order was issued at the local level, by politicians in the state of Louisiana. The president of the united states had no culpability in the incident. As to the matter of the actions of Ronald Reagan, such was done in response to the increasingly provocative and violent demonstrations on the part of the black panthers, intended exclusively to intimidate others. They engaged in criminal behavior and were punished as a result of their own actions.
One more post of nonsense on the part of yourself and it will be reported to the site staff. As will a number of other posts that have no relevance to the topic of discussion. Either abide by the established forum rules, or refrain from parking in the topic of discussion. It is that simple.
Phooey. As you know, responsibility goes to the top. Just because traitor Bush is a Republican it does not excuse him from culpability. Black Panthers have rights like everyone else. Only a court of law can determine if they violated the law in any way. In this respect your opinion counts for nothing. Reagan betrayed the Constitution when he signed the Mulford Act. If you and the other right wingers on this forum had any principle at all, you would agree and condemn Reagan for what he did.
Really, the president is now responsible for the wrongs of a city counsel and the Chief of Police? That's just plain silly. Regan didn't write the bill, the legislature of California did and if it was unconstitutional they bear the burden not the governor. You seemed to misunderstand the difference between the Legislative and Administrative branches of government. If the legislature determines the Black Panthers running around armed, on cop patrol is not proper, that is just the same as the judiciary determining it was not proper.
You are hereby ignored for obvious reasons. You bring nothing of substance to this discussion other than histrionics, hyperbole, and propaganda. Pretty sad when you get right down to it. Pathetic, really. Your problem is that what you call the "Law of the Land"... isn't. Just your own bias and prejudices devoid of legal substance. And that "corrupt and venal prosecutor" is a highly lauded individual with numerous awards for his performance and success in convicting violent criminals, and well respected in the Law Enforcement community.... all things you are not.
Ironic that you assume that fighting to protect 2nd Amendment rights makes one a "right winger". I condemn infringement of Constitutional rights regardless of the party of those government officials who engage in it. Oh, and Bush was not involved in the gun confiscations in New Orleans. That was the policy of DEMOCRATIC mayor Ray Nagin, subsequently arrested and prosecuted for corruption.
Confiscation of guns was done by the National Guard as previously proven on this forum. See the video showing the forcible confiscation against that old lady by the brutal troops and Oklahoma NG - that's right, Oklahomans in NOLA. All under control by your hero traitor Bush. The mayor has no authority over any of them.
Bush isn't my "hero", so your projections are silly. Nagin's administration requested assistance, and law enforcement from all over the country responded. Even Border Patrol was there. The old lady that had her weapons confiscated was attacked and body slammed by law enforcement officers, not NG. You claimed "proven on this forum" but nothing you've presented is factual regarding the events surrounding the Katrina debacle that I've seen. All I've seen is partisan bias and propaganda. You absolve Nagin and his cronies for their actions, when they were the driving force behind it. Did you ever see the video of New Orleans Police Superintendent Eddie Compass stating "no one will be allowed to have weapons"?? That wasn't ordered by Bush.
Incorrect, the confiscations where done by New Orleans police and others working under their command, such as the various National Guardsmen and LEO's from all over the U.S., who where following the orders of the local law enforcement units they where attached to, as part of their duty when deployed to assist law enforcement. It's a shame you seem to be so uninformed as to how mutual aid actually works, but I will provide you a basic lesion. I live in Florida but get deployed to North Carolina for disaster recovery assistance, once there, my manager is no longer following our local procedures, other than standard FEMA IC's, we are attached to a local agency and they are making the decisions as they feel they are needed based on local conditions, we follow their orders and are not under the command of where we came from, nor the president. Sadly your screen name does not match what you proffer, by the lack of your understanding of reality and predisposed bias.
Regan can demand all he wants, but he is not a legislator therefore he cannot write laws. Did you fail civics 101 or what?
Oh by the way the guard is not under the control of the president, they are under dual control but commonly when working within the U.S. answer to the governors of the states they come form or the authorities they are attached to when working outside of their home state. Did you fail civics 101 or what?
The president of the united states is not responsible for the actions of local politicians engaged in illegal activities that violate the protections found within the united states constitution. It does not work that way. If it did then Barack Obama was personally responsible for every black individual who was killed by law enforcement in the line of duty. Under the standard set by yourself, Barack Obama murdered Tamir Rice himself. The black panthers were committing the crime of brandishing firearms in public, for the express purpose of intimidating and threatening members of the public. They were deliberately looking for a fight, and for someone to kill to further their own political goals.
