The only Jewish 2020 Dem candidate, boosts Ihman Omar's comments about Israel

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  1. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

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    ...hmmm... might this be some, credence, toward her comments not being anti-Semitic? What say you??

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-boosts-omar-as-dems-israel-rift-deepens

    BERNIE BOOSTS OMAR AS DEMS’ ISRAEL RIFT DEEPENS


    Politico: “When the latest controversy erupted over Rep. Ilhan Omar’s comments about Israel, only one 2020 presidential candidate rushed to her defense: Bernie Sanders.

    The Vermont senator, the only Jewish candidate in the Democratic primary, embraced the African-American, Muslim congresswoman… No other presidential contender came out as quickly — or as forcefully — as Sanders, who laid down a clear line in the crowded Democratic field between those running as true progressives on foreign policy and those who support an existing U.S. policy that tends to favor Israel over Palestine.

    Sanders’ reaction to Omar’s comments — in which she said Israel’s allies ‘push for allegiance to a foreign country’ — served other purposes as well: it helped solidify his hold on the party’s left wing and dovetailed with his intensified outreach to older African-American voters, a critical constituency that failed to warm to him in 2016.”
     
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  2. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The idea that people of any race cannot be racist is itself racist.

    On the balance of probabilities I find it more likely Omar was covering up anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel than the reverse.

    I dont care because racism is still free speech. To each their own. Duke seems to like it. Who cares.

    I can tell you one thing: if the races and parties were switched the perp would have already been lynched on the steps of the Capitol building.
     
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    Good question.

    What proportion of declared Democratic Party candidates are Jewish, how does that compare to the population at large ?

    For example, if there were 13 candidates for a particular party at the primary stage and less than 50% of them were women, would you consider that party to be misogynistic ?

    According to wiki, Jews make up around 1.4% of the US population. One candidate out of 30 or so (3%) sounds like over-representation to me ;).
     
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    Bernie is an atheist, so if he is a Jew, then he is the worst Jew in the world! I'm gonna go with he is not a Jew!
     
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    Raffishragabash Banned

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    I think we both veraciously realize that, since 1967, there are earthly elements of being 'Jewish' which have absolutely nothing to do with believing in any God/religion but has everything to do with ethnics or cultures. As a matter of fact, 99% of influential Jews never invoke nor weaponize nor bring their religion into their affairs.
     
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    Sure, but that's not Judaism.

    Yeah, because they're not serious Jews.
     
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    Romans 9:6
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It is not anti-Semitic to discuss the many crimes of the Israeli government. It is not anti-Semitic to point out the influence of AIPAC in the federal government.

    Those things are not anti-Semitic, but they very much are truthful statements.
     
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    It depends on the context of the situation. Anti-semites can and do conceal their racism through criticism of Israel.
     
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    But somehow it is considered racist by the left to discuss black on white violence.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only in your tortured mind perhaps.

    Criticism and discussion of the crimes and policies of governments of the world, including Israel, is not anti-Semitism. It is rational public dialogue.
     
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    It can be.

    If you are an anti-Semite simply replace all mention of Jews with mention of Israel.

    Jews are not miserly, Israel is. Jews dont control the world, Israel does.
     
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    Fortunately - you don't get to make up the definition of what a Jew is and what is not .. and what is "serious" and what is not.

    As usual you have no clue what you are talking about. "Judaism" and being a "Jew" are two separate things. One is a religion and the other is a genetic trait.
     
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    Similarly, do people who are racist against black people conceal their racism by criticizing African countries as "shitholes"?
     
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    As we have seen Saunders has already been accused of being a "Self Hating Jew" incredible how people can think that it is not antisemetic in itself to call another jew self hating!

    “If a non-Jew was saying it, people would call him an anti-Semite because he is an anti-Semite. Just because he’s a Jew doesn’t mean he can’t hate being Jewish because he obviously is a viciously self-hating Jew.
    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/...mason-bernie-sanders-self-hating-anti-semite/
     
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    Nice. Maybe Bernie would like to take a walk through Jericho and see how much they appreciate his support.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt it Israel has made the ME a toxic place for any Jew.
     
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    White Nationalists have certainly done that but it is easy to spot and is not what most people who are critical of Israel are doing....what is more white nationaists now find themselves in a tricky situation - they have to admire Israel because like them Israel wants an ethnic nationalist state where they can get rid of all those who do not fit that ethnicity...so really now many white nationalists for instance Richard Spencer makes clear he admires Israel for these reasons.
     
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    That is false. Israel is the only strip of land where it is safe to walk through town wearing a cross, yarmulke, gay flag, have an opinion of your own, be critical of government/religion, etc. The ME is toxic for many, but it has nothing to do with Israel.
     
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    Oh really,

    Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them
    The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews.
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4715226
     
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    Yes really. I have seen this article frequently since it came out in 2004. There is no excuse for spitting on or beheading people because of their beliefs. I am surprised you defended the savagery of the surrounding region with this.
     
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    What you want more? OK.


    Kidnapping and murder of Mohammed Abu Khdeir
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_and_murder_of_Mohammed_Abu_Khdeir

    Of course as usual we get the claim that Israel is wonderful!
     
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    Israel is not without its flaws, but still a great example of what is possible if focus is placed on advancing the people. Israel is thriving, making breakthroughs in science, medicine, agriculture, etc. There is not a single discussion about improving the lives of Palestinians. They are kept angry and primitive to preserve their willingness to be used a pawns against Israel. If only people cared about them as much as they hated Israel.

    BTW, the one who killed Mohammed Abu Khdeir, was he prosecuted or was he made a hero while money was showered on his family?
     
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    Yes, this is a small example of the ignorance the Israeli people, and the world, is facing. http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=479
     
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    Lets remind you of what you wrote!
     

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