The Opposite of Organized Religion is Disorganized Religion

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  1. Blackrook

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    People who say they are Christian but reject "organized religion" are expressing a preference for "disorganized religion," to wit: religion where no one works together for a common goal.

    In disorganized religion, Christians each worship privately, but never meet together for prayer.

    In disorganized religion, Christians perform private charitable acts, but never form larger organizations to perform large scale charity, such as schools, orphanages and hospitals.

    Since each Christian is isolated and alone, disorganized religion has no defense against the all-powerful state that is hostile to religion and seeks to stamp it out.

    Disorganized religion can not proselytze to increase its numbers, nor can it advocate for social improvements, nor can it act for a positive change in living conditions.

    Disorganized religion has little or no impact on the world. As far as the world is concerned, it might as well not exist.
     
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    Not quite. The opposite of organised religion is unorganised religion. Disorganised implies that something which was organised is no longer organised.
     
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    I used the proper word.

    A person who rejects organized religion is disorganizing the religious aspects of his life. He no longer has a structure in his worship other than the structure he imposes on himself.

    For example, he no longer feels compelled to attend religious services on Sunday.
     
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    Your assertion wrt the government is crazy. The government loves religion. The government just doesn't love religion interfering with its behavior.
     
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    I am not speaking about our government.

    I am talking about the Roman Empire, the Communists, the Nazis, and the many other governments that have been hostile to Christianity.

    The only religion that can defend itself from such an assault is organized religion.

    The most organized religion, the Catholic Church, can actually fight back and win.
     
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    I belive there is something called a "Church".
     
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    Ok. If you are ignoring those people that have never belonged to a church, you are correct.
     
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    Most people who say "I reject organized religion" were part of a church.

    Most people who never belonged to a church aren't even religious at all.
     
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    The only time the Catholic Church has ever "won" against an oppressive government is when they capitulated and collaborated. Hence why you have a little Nazi as Pope now.
     
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    OK, well you haven't heard about what happened in Poland in 1989.
     
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    LOL, you're really going to try to pin Solidarity on the Catholic Church? What a joke. :bored: Sure, yeah, lots of Catholics (gee, there's a shock, Catholics in Poland) were involved in it... because it was a broad based organization within a primarily Catholic country. A handful of priests were involved, so suddenly it's the Church's baby? Get real.
     
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    Speaking as a Christian, we are left with the example of Christ. He fought the establisment by calling out the religious leaders, but also fought off the money changers in the temple who were a hindrince to people who desired to worship God in the temple. As a result, I don't find his message to be that religioin is bad, rather, it merely tells me that there are bad people in religion. There were also "good" people as well like Nicodemus who actually cared for people.

    Christ also said he was going to establish a church and his ministry was very well organized. So organization, no matter how big, is not the issue from my vantage point.

    If you ask me, many of those who say that all organized religion is "bad" are the same people who wish to say they believe in God so they have a free ticket to heaven and don't wish to involve themselves anymore with God. After all, who wants to taint themselves with fellow sinners and put forth an effort to help others?
     
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    Well, it's a lot more fun to watch football on Sunday in your jammies rather than getting dressed up and going to Church.

    My guess is that's what motivates most people who reject "organized religion."
     
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    Laziness is the enemy of religion.
     
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    Having been involved with 'Organized religion' over several non/inter/-denominational groups and many years, I have a different take on what you call 'Disorganized religion." The church I attend 'regularly' is the Church of the Recliner, located conveniently in my living room. I dont have to dress up to impress anybody, and I gather with like Christian friends & family (where there are 2or 3 gathered in My name, there I am) in informal sessions to read & discuss scripture, pray, and rejoice with each other. I firmly believe that organized religion has its value, esp in feeding the milk of the word to spiritual babies, but the real work of the ministry for those who follow Christ is to go out into the hwys & bi ways, and to give to and aid those that God places across your path. Too many 'church goers' go to watch what is going on stage or at the front, listen to another read the scriptures while forsaking their own study (as 'to show yourself approved unto God as a workman not ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth'), and are not active participants other than clapping & singing a few songs.

    And in regards to the state et al in persecuting Christianity, I believe that the large churches will fall, and that the end-time church (Body of Christ in total) will be those meeting in homes in small groups across the world, from their persecution, and w/o labels of division as given by man. As Revelation states, "The Antichrist will make war with the saints & wear them down." There will be end-time martyrdom (economic persecution, etc.) and the large churches will not be able to survive w/o the funding to bolster their big budgets. The end-time church will be close groups of devoted Believers, taking care of one another during harsh times.
     
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    Organized religion is not one for you to disorganize. Even if you are somehow "disorganizing the religious aspect of your life" *snicker* you have not disorganized anything with regard to organized religion. Organized religion is precisely the same before, during and after your personal disorganization.

    As has been said, the opposite of organized is indeed unorganized. Next time you have a thought, ponder it carefully before posting it; it may just be one of those that's supposed to pass through.

    Intelligence? Pfttthh
     

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