The Palestinians are the cause of their own misery

The Palestinian cause has been used as a diversionary tactic for a long time, since the 1960s, to call attention away from the Arabs being realistic, responsible, and cleaning up their own crap: abuse of their own people. The Palestinians have been used and abused by their leaders (and leaders from other nations), kept in poverty with little work, and no education - aside from teaching hatred of the Jews as the scapegoat for their problems. The hatred of Jews and Israel isn't the cause of their misery. The Palestinians are the cause of their own misery because they keep rejecting the offer to have their own state and accept Israel's existence. The issue is also about how the Arabs and Muslims they treat Arabs and Muslims. An orchestrated and united anger and hatred is the fuel that keeps the Arabs and Muslims under control and without the ability to see what's really happening and who's truly responsible for it. They have been so brainwashed they are unable to see the truth. Until they can remove the veils from their faces (and I mean both men and women) and see truth there can be no positive change.

http://www.vibrani.com/Palestinians.htm

Please read & learn the link mentioned ..
Thank you.

 

You are on a roll spreading hatred... Merry Christmas.

 

Please stop trolling or step down

 

Spreading hatred is what you do.. Look at the last 20 threads you have started.

This one is from 1999.. Pathetic.


[This article was originally written in 1999, but has since been up-dated and current. Towards the end of this article I offer some solutions to the peace process and suggest you visit authentic Islamic web sites to learn more. Another good source of objective reporting can be found at Honest Reporting.]

 

Keep trolling and i'll report you.
Please address the issue regarding the Palestinian wall of lies .

 

One persons truth is another persons troll. Get over it.

 

Neah. There is a sickening element in Israel and that is the Jewish religion. Those followers claim to have the divine right to have the land of Israel, including Palestine. Hence those people ethnic cleansed +700.000 Palestinian civilians. They then voted in a government who supports it and to start ethnic cleansing across their border so the followers of that religion could thieve the land and pick the fruits. They have been at it for 50 years now... bit by bit, chipping away now. Those religious extremists refuse to stop with it.

And here we have a person putting the blame on the victim.


The insanity of it all

 

It's their religion that contains violating international law, Geneva Conventions and binding UNSC resolutions.
And Israel applies this religious line of thought.

But lets blame the victims

 

But of course its not the palestinians religion that contains violations of the geneva conventions and binding UNSC resolutions.

I don't blame the victims. I believe that virtually every party involved is culpable to one degree or another, including the Mufti, the UN, the Arab league, Israelis, neozionists, the US, Arafat, the PA, Hamas, the PLO AND the palestinian people.

The palestinians are victims. But they sure as hell aren't blameless.

 

Bigots claim that the Jews are the cause of their own misery.

 

According to the Bible, the Jews are to blame for their own suffering:

"According to the Torah, in Deuteronomy chapter 28, the following will happen to Israel if they do not follow all of God's commandments given to Moses on Mt. Sinai:

"But if you will not obey the voice of the Lord your God or be careful to do all his commandments and his statutes that I command you today, then all these curses shall come upon you and movertake you. nin the city, and cursed shall you be in the field. owill send on you curses, confusion, and pfrustration in all that you undertake to do, quntil you are destroyed and perish quickly on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken me. rthe pestilence stick to you until he has consumed you off the land that you are entering to take possession of it. sThe Lord will strike you with wasting disease and with fever, inflammation and fiery heat, and with drought1 and with tblight and with mildew. They shall pursue you until you perish. uthe heavens over your head shall be bronze, and the earth under you shall be iron. v“The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You shall go out one way against them and flee seven ways before them. And you wshall be a horror to all the kingdoms of the earth. xyour dead body shall be food for all birds of the air and for the beasts of the earth, and ythere shall be no one to frighten them away. zwith the boils of Egypt, and with tumors and ascabs and itch, of which you cannot be healed. bmadness and blindness and confusion of mind, cgrope at noonday, as the blind grope in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways.2 And you shall be only oppressed and robbed continually, and there shall be no one to help you. dYou shall betroth a wife, but another man shall ravish her. eYou shall build a house, but you shall not dwell in it. fYou shall plant a vineyard, but you shall not enjoy its fruit. gYour sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, while your eyes look on and fail with longing for them all day long, hbut you shall be helpless. iby the sights that your eyes see. jwith grievous boils of which you cannot be healed, from the sole of your foot to the crown of your head.

 

This was the religious argument for jews passively going to slaughter.

 

By far, the blame is on the Israeli Jews, and Israel, as well as all kinds of greepy fanatic ultra conservative Christian and Jewish lobby groups all over the world. They make it so, that this ethnic cleansing and theft of land can go forth unopposed. That while every nation on this planet is against it.

In "some" countries it's been made perfectly legal to blow the guys head and stand your ground.
When Palestinians do that, it's called terrorism, by the same lot I just mentioned.

 

You blame the Israelis who actually BELIEVED the genocidal rantings of the palestinians AND their surrounding arab neighbors who they have gone to war with a time or two? Gee, how criminal of them.

 

That's absolutely no excuse to go ethnic cleanse any civilian, let alone +700.000 civilians,... to than after the war make it the law that civilian may only return if they Jews so that they can thieve from the Arabs,

 

The Bible says the Jews are the cause of their own misery.

 

The Israelis did not "ethnically cleanse" 700,000+ civilians. That is a misrepresentation of actual facts. Sure some arabs were removed by force, but that VAST majority removed themselves to get out of the line of fire. They were fleeing WAR, like most sane people would want to do. If not letting them return due to the arab's refusal to even talk to the Israelis is "ethnic cleansing" then blame the Arab League.

I do agree that currently Israel is stealing palestinian land.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

A report from the military intelligence SHAI of the Haganah entitled "The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948," dated 30 June 1948, affirms that: This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to "fears" and "a crisis of confidence" affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases.

And that is according to an extremely pro Israeli source. You can guess that the number of 73% is actually a heck of a lot higher.

Israeli law of return, made after the war ruled out any possibility a Arab civilian who got ethnic cleansed by a Jew was able to return to his own house due to his ethnic background. Israel also made a nice law what to do with land that was "vacant".

It's a Jewish government, and it does this ethnic cleansing and thieving because it's what their Jewish voters want. Has been like this for decades. That's how the democracy works in the only Jewish nation on the planet. They have been like this since day 1. It is founded in the Jewish religion.

 

and none of them are allowed to come back, in violation of international law.

all persons have the legal right to flee conflict and return home when the conflict ends.

 

Well quite apart from the fact that there is no enforceable right of return, and precedents for no compensation and other such legal arguments and facts, I suppose you would also apply your understanding to the hundreds of thousands of jews who were "ethnically cleansed" in response to Al Nakba?

YOu might want to read the conventions again. Does your interpretation of what it says lead you to conclude that Lebannon and Syria have ignored their own responsibilities as contracting states?

ONce again, nothing is a cut and dried as you would like to believe. I am willing to bet that the Israelis have way better lawyers than the palestinians should the case ever come up in the ICC.

 

there is a major legal difference.

many if not most of the Jews who fled the Muslim nations were not fleeing an active military conflict.

there is no international law regarding the right of return of folks who were not fleeing conflict, and have no interest or desire to return.

the Palestinian refugees WANT to return to their homes and lands.

the Jewish refugees do NOT want to return to the Muslim world.

 

They were fleeing persecution. Might want to look up the UN's LEGAL definition of refugee, you got it wrong.

I have no doubt that palestinians want to return given the deplorable treatment they have received from their fellow arabs. Israel has a way higher standard of living, rule of law and opportunity to succeed.

I also have no doubt that most Jewish refugees would not want to return to a hostile nation that on a whim could enact historical methods of treating domestic jews.

 

most Palestinian refugees are treated just fine by the Arabs.

 

not the ones in lebannon and syria, or haven't you noticed?

When Saddam fell what happened to the palestinian refugees at the hands of their fellow arabs?

 

"More than 2 million registered Palestine refugees live in Jordan. Most Palestine refugees in Jordan, but not all, have full citizenship"

thats almost half of all refugees.