The PCR test gives false positives

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Several types of fruit and other non-human things were given the PCR test in Tanzania and they came out positive according to this video.

    Former Tanzanian President John Magufuli Exposes The Fraudulent PCR Test For COVID-19
    https://www.brighteon.com/122a55ea-4f64-4b89-8567-372f01378e90


    This supports the theory that there are lots of false positives.

    The WHO Confirms that the Covid-19 PCR Test is Flawed: Estimates of “Positive Cases” are Meaningless. The Lockdown Has No Scientific Basis
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/nucle...ain-reaction-pcr-detection-sars-cov-2/5739959


    This guy sounds like an elitist's nightmare.
    https://thecovidblog.com/2021/03/20...-after-the-guardian-calls-for-reining-him-in/

    He was most likely killed by the elites.
     
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    yes, this has been known, this is why there is follow-up tests for anyone found positive by a PCR test
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Estimates of “Positive Cases”

    this is only done to predict where the cases are going up

    hospitalizations and deaths are the real numbers to look at
     
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    It can also be used to deliberately distort reality by exaggerating the number of positives and call them cases.

    https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.co...tually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among-vaxxd/
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    Essentially, Covid19 has long been shown – to those willing to pay attention – to be an entirely created pandemic narrative built on two key factors:

    1. False-positive tests. The unreliable PCR test can be manipulated into reporting a high number of false-positives by altering the cycle threshold (CT value)
    2. Inflated Case-count. The incredibly broad definition of “Covid case”, used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a “Covid19 case”, even if they never experienced any symptoms.
    Without these two policies, there would never have been an appreciable pandemic at all, and now the CDC has enacted two policy changes which means they no longer apply to vaccinated people.
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    no one really cares about number of cases, just if getting lots of positives in the area and it's trending up

    the bigger concern is hospitalizations and death
     
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    See batshit, post batshit. No summary, just a load of idiotic links that you have made no attempt to validate.

    Just pathetic spam.
     
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    More info on the PCR test...

    Protesters demand an end to PCR testing at B.C. rally
    https://www.rebelnews.com/protester...t_2_9_21&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel


    PCR TEST 'CASEDEMIC': HOW TECHNOCRATS INTENTIONALLY WEAPONIZED BAD SCIENCE
    https://www.blacklistednews.com/art...technocrats-intentionally-weaponized-bad.html
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    We now know that PCR tests:

    1. Cannot distinguish between “live” viruses and inactive (noninfectious) viral particles and therefore cannot be used as a diagnostic tool — For this reason, it is grossly misleading to refer to a positive test as a “COVID-19 case.”As explained by Dr. Lee Merritt in her August 2020 Doctors for Disaster Preparedness1 lecture, featured in How Medical Technocracy Made the Plandemic Possible,” media and public health officials appear to have purposefully conflated “cases” or positive tests with the actual illness.
      Medically speaking, a “case” refers to a sick person. It never ever referred to someone who had no symptoms of illness.
      Now all of a sudden, this well-established medical term, “case,” has been arbitrarily redefined to mean someone who tested positive for the presence of noninfectious viral RNA. As noted by Merritt, “That is not epidemiology. That’s fraud.”
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    Scott why don’t you use sites that actually have real information?
     
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    The PCR tests cannot detect infection, and the designer of the test, Kary Mullis, pointed that out.

    It is the misuse of the PCR tests that sustain the fear in the herd.
     
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    How many times have you put this lie up? The trufer repeat of fake news! The PCR test cannot detect if the PERSON is infectious.

    Fact check: Inventor of method used to test for COVID-19 didn’t say it can’t be used in virus detection | Reuters
    "the quote is actually from an article written by John Lauritsen in December 1996 about HIV and AIDS, not COVID-19 (here).

    The context around the quote shows Lauritsen is not saying PCR tests do not work. Instead, he is clarifying that PCR identifies substances qualitatively not quantitatively, detecting the genetic sequences of viruses, but not the viruses themselves: “PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.”

    Even if Mullis had voiced a similar statement before his death in 2019, this quote does not mean the PCR test is unable to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2 - the virus that causes COVID-19 - rather that it cannot determine whether the individual tested is infectious."


    Bullshit. The test is not misused, the only misuse is the use of fake news by the conspiracy herd!
     
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    Case number increase rates have been cited as the primary reason for lockdowns and mandates.
    ...and is essentially dtermined by the sensitivity of the test. It has been 'turned up' and 'down' several times during the pandemic. If one were inclined, the trend could be entirely manufactured simply by adjusting the sensitivity at which the testing is to be performed. Turned up high enough and everyone (and everything) will test positive. Low enough and there will be no cases at all. The question is- were the people determining the 'proper' sensitivity doing so competently and scientifically or did they screw it (perhaps on purpose)?
     
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    hospitalization increases, not case increases
     
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    Oh look the fake doctor again. Explain why you keep deliberately posting misinformation when this person is provably a fraud?
     
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    For any casual viewers, this joker put up data from this "goodsciencing" website that he then used to claim the death rate in athletes has gone berserk. Luckily, this was one of those bullshit misinformation sources that was easy to tear to pieces.

    Direct link to the post.

    Instead of looking at that and deciding his source was completely dishonest, his next post actually put up a bullshit graph from the same damn site! And now look, his provably dishonest misinformation site is being used to bolster the batshit opinions of an idiotic back doctor with zero virology experience!

    "Truthers" huh?
     
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    Um, "covid" hospitalizations and deaths are based on PCR tests.....that's the point...
     
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    Indeed.

    Even the CDC's testing revealed that if a PCR test was cycled more than 24 times, you were no longer finding live virus.

    Cycling past 24 means you're detecting dead or residual virus.

    How many times were PCR tests cycled in US, Europe and other 1st world nations?

    35-40.
     
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    He doesn't have to have experience working with viruses to know about them. Maybe he reads a lot of research papers and, being a doctor, he might personally know a few virologists who keep him up to speed. Someone like this guy should be taken seriously.
     
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    Yes SHE does!

    The troll thinks the unqualified woman is a guy? A typo is one thing, but you pretty much proved you don't even watch your own batshit.
     
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    Bullshit. You directly quoted my comment about Merritt the back doctor!
     
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    It was my fault. I thought you were referring to Dr. Hodkinson. Sometimes I drink too much coffee. Tell us what you think of him and what he said.

    Also, I think what I said about him* applies to Lee Merritt too.


    *
     
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