The PCR test gives false positives

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Of course the mainstream media are going to react like that. What do you expect?

    What he and Lee Merritt say is consistent with what I see around me...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...sed-from-prison.603801/page-4#post-1073918790
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...es-deadly-blood-clots.606446/#post-1073922922

    ...and the mainstream version isn't consistent with what I see around me so I think the mainstream media are lying to the public. Those links you posted don't have any direct links to his works. Anything objective would show both sides of the issue. People can listen to him and Lee Merritt and decide for themselves.

    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Hodkinson
    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Lee Merritt
     
  2. Betamax101

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    Of course the batshit misinformation media will do what they do - it's how they make money! What do you expect?

    Bullshit. You are a known forum troll with no credibility. Your hearsay is a tiny circle and even if you are not lying about what you have heard, your circle is one of batshit enthusiasts.

    Batshit circular reasoning. 99.99% of the medical profession, every professional body, every virology group say you are full of crap, against you, team batshit and the biggest misinformation campaign in history. Hmmm, who to believe!

    How would you know, you didnt even read them! His "works" are calling SARS2 fake.

    Batshit.

    It states his claims one by one. Had you read the link you wouldnt need to lie. Your trouble is you wouldn't understand any of it in the first place.

    Your "scientific method" - See batshit, post batshit, ignore anything not batshit, make noise.

    You debate like a 5 year old - who are these "people" to whom you refer? They never turn up to help you. Only fellow team batshit members chip in.
     
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  3. Scott

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    Go to the 13:05 time mark of the video that's about a third of the way down this page,

    WATCH: Dr. Peter McCullough faces loss of medical credentials for 'misinformation'
    https://www.wnd.com/2022/11/watch-dr-peter-mccullough-faces-loss-medical-credentials-misinformation/


    It kind of looks like there is a reason that a lot of doctors are going along with the official narrative. They will lose their careers if they don't.
     
  4. Betamax101

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    No. It looks like crank behaviour gets its just reward. He has a career with team batshit now.
     
  5. Scott

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    You say that certain doctors aren't qualified to comment on whether the vaccine is causing deaths. What are your qualifications to make judgements on medical matters then?
     
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    On institutions were supposed to trust make a habit out of lying and showing incompetence and political bias this is the sort of thing that results.

    Someone who blindly nurses at the teet the public information believing everything they're told by professional liars is worse than someone who questions it.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen them start to prosecute fauci yet. I would call his behavior crank quack certainly and megalomania. I'm hesitant to say psychopathic but it wouldn't surprise me.
     
  8. Betamax101

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    Circular logic based on gullibly believing misinformation.

    Nope. Nothing wrong with questioning things, it's how we arrive at firm conclusions. The only teet nursing is by followers of batshit who question things and have foregone conclusions and beliefs, so end up only taking on things that reinforce those beliefs. Confirmation bias.

    Once again gullible belief in misinformation being your source for your conclusion
     
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    Not necessarily, any doctor may comment on any health issue, but their motivation and level of expertise is more salient. When a back-doctor comments on virology they are talking from a place of inexperience. When one cardiologist makes wild claims that turn out to be total nonsense and all the virologists say so, then once again they are talking hogwash.

    One doesn't need qualifications to assimilate data correctly, assess consensus, dismiss and disprove clear lies or to see the difference between the word of highly qualified teams of doctors and idiots with "alternative health" businesses. For this reason, were YOU to actually use any scientific method (and you NEVER do) it would greatly elevate your pathetic credibility.
     
  10. Polydectes

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    The only thing people base whether or not something is misinformation is how mainstream it is.

    So, thank you for saying I don't follow the crowd I take it as a complement.


    I don't believe you. it's all about what conclusion you come to and thus who you essentially claim is lying.
    So anybody that doesn't religiously believe in the main narritive, because it is the main narritive and thus beyond reproach.

    Essentially do what you're told. I've never been a follower.


    Once again Whether something is deemed misinformation or not is based on how mainstream it is.
     
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    Spoken like a true follower of batshit. No, misinformation is where something is incorrect and misleading used to convey false data, opinion or conclusions.

    You don't follow a crowd, you follow a collective of batshit believers and appalling sources.

    I don't care.

    No, you see this is why conspiracy theorists think they "know things". They think their opinion from ignorance is a match for educated, highly informed, thoroughly researched, peer reviewed and concise experts. Experts that form a consensus, that is overwhelmingly larger than the crap from the batshit minority.

    Narrative. Nothing is beyond reproach, but I guarantee that you will never apply levels of reproach to your own sources!

    Hogwash, it's nothing to do with authority and you are a real hero for being a rebel.

    Well, once again spoken like a true follower of batshit. No, misinformation is where something is incorrect and misleading used to convey false data, opinion or conclusions.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    Spoken like a true follower.
    The word is used mostly to attempt to stifle any opposition to institutions of power. essentially it is used as a form of propaganda.

    Meaning i don't follow mainstream liars. again thanks for the compliment.

    You are the only person i have seen on this thread thinking they "know things" All you are doing is appealing to authority. I am questioning it.

    See this is you posting that you "know things." and it is just an appeal to authority.

    In my view authority must always be questioned and it's ability to answer in a rational reasonable way defines it's credibility. Not calling everybody that disagrees or questions or even believes incorrect things batshit conspiracy theorists.

    You are doing more damage to your position than any conspiracy theorist.

    Im questioning, not arguing. I have no claims to source.

    Why then is your entire argument based on appeal to authority and calling everyone that doesn't accept it Batshit? I am not a rebel or a hero, I'm just not easily convinced of things. it takes mor than calling me names to get me to accept something.

    I'm not impressed with arrogance.
    Then there can't be misinformation because you could simply show the correctness of your position. If you need to squawk about batshit and conspiracy theories and suggest everybody that questions are just ignoring truth, then you can't show the correctness of your position.

    You are just calling people names for not agreeing with you.
     
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    Nope, it is used to detail misinformation that is subsequently proven as such. If you disagree with the proven bit, the problem is your level of understanding and probable stubbornness NOT the proof.

    Right there is your problem and it isn't a compliment. You blanket label the mainstream as liars which involves literally millions of people. That is not just absurd it is absolutely moronic.

    MEH! The constant tirade of links to "truther" sites and the instant and gullible belief in them. My "appeal to authority" involves not the usual single person that "truth-seekers" use, it is the entire damn industry! It's more akin to an appeal to non-stupidity.

    Ditto

    You do NOT question authority, you have labelled them as liars and believe any alternative. THAT is the batshit part!

    When a conspiracy theorist is my judge, I rest easy.

    Pick one question to debate then. Because you came in here to pick a fight and that is called trolling!

    I'm not impressed with gullibility, fixed belief, uneducated noise and a whole host of even worse attributes held by "truthers".

    Which is automatically dismissed because it comes from a non batshit source! MEH!

    Repeating yourself. The correctness of my position is obvious to anyone who takes the time to read, uses logic, is objective and analyzes their source material honestly. None of you people who post in this section will EVER action any of that

    Well not just that, for failing to follow any logic, failing to be objective, posting crappy misinformation that they haven't bothered to verify, having fixed beliefs and stubborn in their pursuit of them, automatically dismissing anything that disagrees with them...etc.
     
  14. Polydectes

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    the concept of misinformation is a conspiracy theory.

    Everything you said after this means nothing because you're operating under the pretense of everyone must accept your conspiracy theory.

    I reject your conspiracy theory use something else to make an argument if you can possibly do that.

    I don't think you can that's why nobody ever does.

    Make an argument that does not require the prayer you keep saying about misinformation.

    If what you believe was correct you would be able to terminate all so-called misinformation instantly.

    This is why there's no such thing as Misinformation. It's just things that are not convenient for the narrative you choose to believe.
     
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    It's a bit difficult to "argue" with somebody trolling and simply taking an opposite position.

    To suggest a conspiracy involving millions of educated people to kill off the world is probably more idiotic than the flat Earth clowns.

    Repeating yourself. It's a bit difficult to "argue" with somebody trolling and simply taking an opposite position.

    Use the quote function, meaningless statement.

    Repeating yourself. It's a bit difficult to "argue" with somebody trolling and simply taking an opposite position.

    A circular logic of profound failure. The problem is not my ability to convince, or indeed any source to convince, it is the stubbornness and the fixed belief of the "truther", their total lack of logic and objectivity. I do not want to put anyone in with a flat-earther, but the same mentality is there - impossible to convince them of anything.

    Circular reasoning and incredible irony. Misinformation and disinformation most certainly exists and the sources are almost exclusively from websites trying to make money from gullible conspiracy theorists.
     
  16. Polydectes

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    Dismissing BS isn't trolling.

    Try harder, quit making excuses for why you can't argue.


    I would agree it's a good thing I don't believe in such a thing are you trying to tell me that I do what would be the point of that? Another excuse for you not to make an argument?


    you're just making excuses it's difficult for you to argue because your position is weak.


    4TH cop out I bet $1,000 that doesn't change.


    5th cop out.


    6th cop out


    And 7

    You aren't arguing because your position is weak you're making excuses for why your position is weak.

    You are also making personal attacks against me because your position is weak.

    If you agree with me that your position is weak keeps telling me how I'm trolling and how I'm some sort of "Truther" whatever the hell that is.

    If not quit crying wipe your nose you quit telling me how I'm all these things did they get it possible for you to make a point and waaa waa waa boo hoo
     
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    But you aren't dismissing anything. You are trolling.

    Just weird. You aren't making any arguments, you are just trolling and complaining.

    What argument would you like me to address?

    What argument would you like me to make. You come on here with nothing but hot-air and bluster, deliberately trying to create an altercation - that's called trolling.

    Keep telling yourself that, but you aren't actually making any coherent argument, you are just complaining and trolling.

    Trolling.
     
  18. Polydectes

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    Boohoo trolling waaa waaaa waaaaaaa.

    That's all you got.

    That and excuses for why you can't make an argument.
     
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    @Polydectes - The following link details an analysis I performed on a major claim made. It suggests that athletes are dropping in far greater numbers than before, due to "deadly vaccines".

    LINK HERE

    Now instead of this pathetic exchange, why don't YOU take part in the exchange of information and discussion known as debate. Can you defend the claims made? Or do you agree with my dismantling them with simple verification that you said was not possible

    You make my point for me. You didnt answer my question, how did you know you had covid 19?

    Argument against what? You're trolling, you haven't made any argument.
     
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    I'm not interested in Reading your posts attacking people.

    Got to get that sometimes people take notice those things that have been going on all along.

    I don't find you a very civil person so watching you trash talk to somebody and just make me think even
    you're arguing it seems like you got it from someone else.


    next time don't mix your question up and do a bunch of caterwauling.

    I knew I had covered because of the symptoms. Inability to taste or smell.



    So you have no idea you're just here posting angry because you're bored?

    If you haven't got an argument that you're trying to make and you haven't got really much reason to be here.
     
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    Cue chicken noise. Pages of crap about no argument, I give him a concise one and he craps himself.

    So you guessed you had "covered"? That's just absurdly funny.

    With you? You're just a troll. I've spent many posts in argument. Your inability to see this speaks volumes about your conspiracy blinkers.

    I gave you a big argument in the link and you chickened out.
     
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    so what are you doing now?

    It can't possibly be that your argument isn't perfect. It convinced you and you wanted to believe it in the first place so that's all you bring.


    I saw a very formatted post. But only two links to studies which are often debatable.
     
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    Waiting for you to stop trolling and enter this pitiful debate properly.

    Thank you for your well-researched opinion, no trolling at all.

    Then you are as clueless as I first thought. The post is in response to pretty much the main source of all the hub-bub about the "excessive deaths" occurring post vaccine roll-out. Had you successfully read the post and the preceding claim it would be totally obvious. I showed that the comparison study was massively limited and nowhere near concise and that the "truther" study was a pile of lying bullshit. Out of range dates, some didn't die, hardly any died of heart disease, no vaccine status confirmed, the list goes on.
     
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    So you're not really interested in having a discussion.
     
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    Is this an English thing? Are you struggling with vocabulary? I gave you a link, you didn't read it or understand it properly. I point this out. Then you suggest it is I who is stalling on discussion?

    The post is in response to pretty much the main source of all the hub-bub about the "excessive deaths" occurring post vaccine roll-out. Had you successfully read the post and the preceding claim it would be totally obvious. I showed that the comparison study was massively limited and nowhere near concise and that the "truther" study was a pile of lying bullshit. Out of range dates, some didn't die, hardly any died of heart disease, no vaccine status confirmed, the list goes on.

    And your response should be to go to the thread and respond. But that isn't going to happen is it?
     

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