The Pentagon on 9/11 - MODERATOR WARNING ISSUED

That's a straight faced question, right? No one knows for a fact what actually caused the destruction of those 3 towers on 9/11 (other than those who planned it), all are theories. What is scientifically proven to be impossible are NIST's theories.

 

Wait a minute Bobby. Now numbers matter? I thought you said this:

So now it's a numbers game to YOU now?

 

But they're "informed" Bobby! Remember? They're professionals! They're basing their claims on supposed evidence! How can they both be right? Which evidence presented to them is wrong? Why are you going in circles?

 

Just an example. in 2016, there were 40,327 motor vehicle crash deaths.

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-v...MIt6z5tIHe3QIVBlmGCh2fngrPEAAYASAAEgIMbvD_BwE

If any of those people had spoken out about 9/11 at some point, you'd think it was suspicious? Serious question.

 

Nope not to me. The false argument posed by YOU and other OCT defenders is that the vast majority of experts agree with the OCT yet no one can show that to be true. I merely asked for you or anyone to show YOUR argument is true by showing any significant number. For me 100 or even 50 would be somewhat significant even though it would far from a majority. Can you show that?

It seems to me it's you who's trying to pretend there's some kind of circular argument where there is none, they all agree the OCT is a fraud regardless of what theories they may propose. And that's why they signed the petition. Your games are all too transparent.

 

This is something that appears to happen all the time.

10 troofers can have 10 different claims, all backed by scientific study.
None of them will argue with each other.

They just argue with the "uninformed" public.

 

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard from you yet Bobby.

One of those two people are basing their belief of what the outcome was on WRONG INFORMATION as both theories cannot be correct.

 

You cry "science and reality" and then follow it up with this garbage:

You don't care one bit about science and reality as you have stated above. All you care about is that people think the "OCT" is false. Science and reality dictates that one theory has to be correct yet one person says explosives did it and the other says it was thermite. I mean for Christ's sake, Markus Weber Sutter from the AE911Truth site says it was thermite/thermate and not explosives and that's why there was no audible explosions!

 

Some troffers say the planes were holograms.

I think the buildings were holograms, and they just turned them off.

 

Yeah, your logic stinks on ice.

All the prosecuting attorney's in the trial agree Joe Blow committed the murder and can prove it. The only sticking point is that half of them says they have proof it was a gunshot from a .45 that killed the person and the other half says they have proof it was 30 stabs from a kitchen knife that killed the person.

How doesn't matter as long as they all agree Joe Blow did it!!!! Life in prison!!!!

 

Sorry, but logic, reasoning, and common sense are not allowed.
You aren't playing fair.

 

Good so let me repeat, they ALL agree the OCT is a FRAUD. Their signature demanding a NEW INVESTIGATION (sic there was no legitimate investigation) is their combined endorsement (all 3,042 of them) that the official "investigation" into 9/11 was fraudulent (otherwise why demand a "new" one?).

That has nothing to do with the above. Your point is an obvious red herring phony one.

I'm happy it does for YOU, ask me if I care. Yours however is non-existent and changes nothing about the 3,042 signatures (and GROWING) on that petition that signifies they all agree the OCT is a fraud.

So now please tell me how one petitioner's hair color is brown and another is blond, because that would change everything. Is there an emoji you need for that?

 

Of course my statement stands on its own and has nothing to do with what other people may theorize. I don't endorse every theory out there, only those that make sense scientifically and logically and even then I fully note that they are always theory unless and until proven otherwise. For example, the recent Coste videos are a legitimate theory as are many theories about CDs and drones. Energy weapons, nuclear, UFOs and gremlins not so much but they are not worse than the OCT.

What I really care about is that I (moi - Bob) know the OCT is false and that experts and many others I respect agree and have proven it's false. What I don't care about is phony internet jockeys such as yourself go through all sorts of silly contortions, complete with cute emojis, defending the OCT 24/7. The only use I have for people such as yourself is when you bring up issues I can use to post about.

I'm an atheist so Christ (who likely never existed) had nothing to do with 9/11. Do you believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy too? I mean you believe the OCT is true so why not?

 

It's highly unlikely that any link would change your mind. Storage in Iron Mountain is old news indeed.

 

the usual "old news" cop out ...

 

(from post #1323)

Don't you think that it's statistically improbable that so many witnesses and whistle-blowers died right when they were causing trouble for the government?

How about this guy?

Michael Ruppert confronts CIA director about Drug Laundering


Mike Ruppert - CIA and Drug Running (1997)



Check out the comment section of this video.

The Death Of Michael C. Ruppert - Narrated by Jack Martin



Do you think it's possible that he was killed by the government because he was spilling the beans? I would bet that he was. Do you think the US government is capable of getting rid of people who blow the whistle on them? You sure seem to trust the US government.


What do you think of this info about the US teaching torturers and making torture equipment to use to control dissent in its de facto colonies* in the third world?
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Torture/Torture_page.html


*
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/

 

On the contrary, you seem to trust the government for not killing you.

 

are you kidding, the assassination of anyone who presents a real problem, that is a problem they feel they can not keep a lid on, for the US of K inc is and has always been SOP.

You can always tell who is important, its a matter of life and death that they change their story, and those who do not are simply terminated.

 

It's that good ole boys KKK churchstate lynching enforcement of Nazington, D.C. making certain the national religion is not sullied.

 

The attitude of these pro-official story posters seems to be that the US government would never do something so awful as kill a witness and make it look like a suicide or drug overdose. I just wanted to point out what the US government is capable of doing so that their strategy of dismissing the idea of government killings as silly would be put into perspective.

Let's hear what the pro-official version posters say about the info on torture and American imperialism in my last post and don't say that the media would report it if it were true.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...germany-in-1933.401955/page-3#post-1066548138


I wanted to post this at the top of post #1341

I didn't notice the mistake until it was too late to change it.

 

We dont need to look to far, look what they did to Dresden, claimed the railroad was the target and bombed over 96% of the residential areas while the railroad was virtually untouched, tungaluska comes to mind, how about the the cia releasing biological agents in the NY subway, they lit up waco, and how about murrah, then the people they used for lsd experiments and the list goes on ad infinitum.

I too would like hear what the pro-official version posers say about the info on torture and American imperialism in your last post!

 

I would like for you and Scott to stay on topic and respond to the Coste presentation ...

 

I think the fact that the US government is run by a bunch of gangsters who are the puppets of big companies is part of the big picture and relevant to this topic and anyone who doesn't seem to know that by now isn't fit to debate 9/11 much less talk about it authoritatively.

Tell us Shinebox, are you aware that the US government manufactures torture instruments and trains torturers whose job it is to keep people in our de facto colonies from voting out or overthrowing the puppet governments that it instals?

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Torture/Torture_page.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/


If you tap dance around this instead of answering it, the only thing I'll need to say is "Checkmate".

 

Then why, statistically, are so many 9/11 "troublemakers" still alive?

How was Jowenko considered to be more of a threat by the government to blow the 9/11 "OCT" wide open than:

Richard Gage
Leroy Hulsey
Niels Harrit
Judy Woods
Jim Hoffman
Rob Balsamo
Tony Szamboti
Mark Basile
Charlie Sheen
Rosie O'Donnell
William Rodriguez
Rick Shaddock
David Chandler

And those are just name a few. Most of these people supposedly have figured out, with supposed proof, that the "OCT" was a lie. Explain how this fantasy of yours works. And there are So many ways the government would be able to stop what these people are doing without killing them.

 

Almost every single time Eleuthera is asked for a link or proof of what he claims, it's ALWAYS this excuse why he can't.