The People Are Overcoming Gun Permissiveness in the US!

Despite the dung-flinging by craven lowlifes hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and launching their ad hominem attacks upon kids who have survived firearm massacres, speaking truth to power and redressing the gun carnage facilitated by the permissiveness in the US is making painful progress.

It won't be easy, but the People are being heard.

The people are taking back power from the powerful, special interest lobbies that conspire to prevent elected representatives from representing those who elect them.​

"Oh, shoot!"​

 

There is ample reason to be optimistic.

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I look at these kids and John Lennon's "Give Peace a Chance" runs through my head.

This is thier flower power movement and we should be marching along side of them

 

But human nature is what it is. There will never be a hippie utopia. There will always be violence. There will always be a need to defend yourself from such violence.

I agree things can be done to address our staggering firearm related deaths, but these kids marching isn’t it, and neither is wishing for some utopian society where violence is just magicked away.

 

Nothing is stopping you. Get on with it. If my kids would have participated in such a sham they would have found out a very quick life lesson the hard way.

 

We know there are no real solutions but the kids should have a chance to dream

We had our chance did we not?

 

Hell, it's the dreaming that gets them into trouble. Stop dreaming and start learning something of value, at least when you're in school. Dreaming has a time and place.

 

While I do not agree with anyone who demeans kids voicing their opinion, it's not a crime in the US to disagree....although with people like you, I suspect it soon will become illegal to go against the State.

LW authoritarianism is seeking to dominate free will "for our own good". It's the main difference between Left and Right ideology....although there are some RWers who are also authoritarians seeking to dominate what others believe, how they live and what they think.

 

Whether you feel that you need to suppress free speech is entirely your affair.

Needless to say, I welcome the public debate and hope that elected public representatives will represent the public in their also exercising free speech concerning the legislation the public is demanding.

 

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From the land of total gun confiscation:
Nice of the UK and Swedes to take up target practice and grenade tossing skill so their new guest feel more welcome to participate.
Complacent ignorance. Makes sense, Eh?

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Leading Surgeon Says Violence in Khan’s London ‘Like South Africa’, Predicts ‘Summer of Carnage'
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/21/surgeon-violence-london-africa-carnage/

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Meanwhile in Sweden: Shootings And Grenade Attacks Are So Common, the Media Doesn’t Bother to...
http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/...a-doesnt-bother-to-report-them-anymore-video/
The news from Europe and especially from Sweden are becoming more Orwellian and depressing by the day. The case in point is Sweden for today’s piece of reality, a country that decided a few decades ago to commit cultural suicide and to abandon all the principles used by their founding fathers to build one of the most prosperous and advanced countries (both culturally and economically) in the world. Since the 70s, Sweden has become increasingly statist and multicultural, and now, a country with less than 10 million natives opened its gates to unchecked mass immigration from Africa and the Middle East...

 

Unlike you, I do not seek to suppress free speech. However, I do reserve the right to disagree with people. Yes, even teenagers acting as LW surrogates.

Dude, you're not seeking debate as your OP states; you are seeking eliminate "gun permissiveness" AKA gun rights.

 

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Completely Orwellian of you....

 

Unfortunately, that is the inevitable result of socialism with our current level of technology.

 

Perhaps we can also pass a law making it illegal to use a gun to protect anybody who thinks guns aren't necessary. That would pretty much solve the debate- either the outlaws
and crazies kill you or you learn that self-defense is everyone's duty, and guns are not your enemy.

Funny how the rant against guns rages like forest fires, while the rant against deranged people who kill others is hardly more than a mouse fart in a hurricane.
That makes me wonder if most to the deranged people driven to kill aren't gun control obsessed people themselves. Safer to kill unarmed people obviously.

 

The kids have a right to speak...the first amendment guarantees that.

However, if we are being honest. I wonder how many of those kids truly believe? How many are participating just to get out of school?

If I was a betting man, I'd say that less than 40 percent truly believe, the rest are just 'joiners'.

I've raised 5 kids and two are still in high school...they both shoot and hunt, yet they have asked me if their school has a walkout, can they leave as well.

 

Exactly. The free concerts for the marchers had a bit of influence too...

 

You seem confused. What evidence do you have of my seeking to prevent anyone from expressing themselves?

 

If that is your wish, you are free to advocate for it, of course.

I, on the other hand, share the conviction of most Americans as cited in the afore-cited poll that sensible measures to reduce the obscene level of firearm carnage are needed. Surrendering to the status quo of gun slaughter in the US is not an option for me.

 

The sooner they are acquainted with the harsh realities of life, the sooner they will become productive members of society.

 

I know, freedom isn’t for everyone, especially those who rely on adolescents for their worldview.

 

Your OP.

 

You disagree with most Americans who want to take sensible measures to reduce the frequency of firearm massacres in the United States,

It may afford you some comfort that progress, however inexorable, will be slow. The People are up against a powerful, entrenched political lobby that puts enormous pressure on public representatives to not represent the public.

 

Will be GREAT to have these kids join us in smashing the nra's pathetic republican puppets in voting booths across the country this fall and in the years to come...

 

Yes, you are confused.

In citing the popular sentiment, I have not gagged Mr LaPierre or anyone else.

I encourage them to engage in our national dialogue.

 

Those who would trade their freedoms in the name of security will have neither.

First of all, anyone bother to do a cost-benefit analysis here? Laws don't magically enforce themselves you know.
To be able to enforce these laws, you'll have to use the very same tool you hate.
People will go to prison. A small fraction of these people may even be innocent.
Still worth the cost? Why the absorbed costs to the legal system alone probably couldn't be justified by any reduction in homicide rate.

Secondly, you're going to make people more reliant on government for safety.
If you believe that's the solution to all our problems, then of course no surprise you would be inclined to think towards that way.

Thirdly, I think criminal lose (more) respect for the law when the law isn't based on things that are clearly morally wrong. Thus a law intended to reduce crime and violence could end up resulting in even more of it.