The press is the enemy of the people

Is the ny times the enemy of the people?

 

Wow. Just wow

 

The difference is that President Trump did not say the media is the enemy of the people, - he said "fake news media" is the enemy of the people.

Are you saying CNN, MSNBC, the WaPo and the NYTimes are not purveyors of fake news when they purposefully misquote and mis-characterize him on a near daily basis.

Are you saying that the lies these sites tell did not create and are not worsening the division of Americans into hostile political groups who are barely this side of violent conflict?

 

Yes. It is shocking and apalling, that a free press, once an institution of freedom and truth, could be corrupted into a propaganda tool for political manipulators..

 

I got one. What happened to standards, honesty and integrity in journalism? At what point did it become more propaganda than factual, accurate, unbiased information?

I remember when journalists used to question what our gov't told us, but today, unless there is some partisan issue at stake, our press sounds like the PR dept. for our state dept, and war dept.

 

Fair enough. I agree that this is another good question - and perhaps this is the point the poster is trying to make.

The question I posed is also a valid question = Is the press currently the enemy of the people ?

Shutting down the press is one thing - whether the press is operating as a propaganda machine is another.

Would you not agree that if the press is operating as a propaganda arm of the State - the Establishment - this would be acting as an enemy of the people ?

The problem with Trump is that he is only concerned about media issues that relate to him - and his bloated ego. Trump does not give a hoot about freedom of the press or propaganda in the press - other than when it relates negatively to him.

 

Somewhat ironic that two different properties owned by Rupert Murdoch can report Dirty Donald news so differently.We have Fux which is a cheering section for Dirty Donald, while the Wall St.Journal reports Dirty Donald news much more in line with the main stream media.

 

Yes - President Trump often points to specific media outlets who regularly lie about him such as CNN, MSNBC, the WaPo and the NYTimes are 4 outlets that are, IMO, the leaders of the fake news community.

Consider that these same outlets have also defamed anyone who supports the President with the hateful monikers of racist, homophobe and Islamophobe - all because we support President Trump and we disagree with open borders and sanctuary policies that we consider to be harmful to the well being of our nation.

Maybe I'm wrong in some way, but I get overjoyed when I see these same fake news outlets laying off staff and cutting whole departments - I can't wait for them to be gone!

 

..and so it is..

Despite the distortions of the OP, in collaboration with the FAKE NEWS MEDIA, the fact remains of the biased anti-American, and anti-trump reporting in the main stream news media.

This thread is just another example of the distortions, editing, partial quoting, and misrepresentation of any conservative, pro American spokesperson.

Fake news. aka, Propaganda. aka, Lies.

 

The press is no longer just a press. The enemies of the people now employ not only the presses but also many other media. To suggest that anyone who employs a printing press is an enemy of the people is ridiculous. To say that the legacy media acts, as an enemy acts, towards the US as founded is simply to state the self-evident.

 

This is bullshit. The republican party of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt were progressive anti Big business and both believed in a strong federal government over state rights. The dixicrats were not liberal by any means and those political organizations morphed into the southern republican party you see today. To think that todays republicans share the same values of social change that Rockefeller, Richardson, Dewey, Bayh. Dirksen is ridiculous. Teddy Roservelt even attempted to get national health insurance 110 years ago.

So please tell me what republicans now seated believe in Federal and not state rights and universal health coverage and whose party tried to implement the federal income tax in 1890 and 1908

 

Restate the question. You lack clarity.

 

Yeah, right.

He attacks the media just like his hero Hitler did. No surprise that he is defended by PF members of the far right.

 

your hero became Republican in 2001 or thereabouts:

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history


but he never changed his views

 

Except, not true.

 

Which part isn't true?

Trump DID ban reporters for covering stories which made him look bad, and a federal judge ordered the white house to restore their credentials because there was no evidence of any wrongdoing that warranted their action (The President isn't allowed to prohibit press access just because he doesn't like how a reporter covers him)

He DID call any reporters or news media who covered stories which made him look bad traitors.

He even tried to ban any news stations except Fox from being played in government buildings. Government workers complained that they were being forced to watch only Fox and it was stopped, but it was Trump's orders that it be done in the first place. That's a very despot-like move, trying to force government workers to only watch news media which favors him.

 

Here we are with another case of confirmation bias as the poster states his opinion as fact because there are no real facts out there supporting his bias.

 

The media can be an enemy of the people or it can be the bastion of freedom. Let me tell you a story. There was, at one time, no real interest in AR-15s. They could be used for pig hunting and a few other things but not a big interest. Time and Newsweek came out with "ban AR" articles in 1989 and the copycats came out en-masse. There is no real reason that the public needs to know what gun was used in any shooting. It simply sells. It gets people riled up on both sides of the gun debate. If the left were truly interested in stopping mass shootings, they would be just as interested in toning down the media as they are in stopping the sale of certain undefined firearms. Both require screwing around with the Constitution so why is the 2nd amendment fair game but messing with the first amendment is strictly off limits? The media was curtailed during WWII. Although mainly voluntarily, the government strongly suggested that they not publish certain things for the security of the nation. The media obliged. They really don't seem to care any longer who they hurt and in certain surveys, they have indicated as much. I've done a lot of reading on this issue but if you just don't believe me, this should get you started with links to other works.

Essays, UK. (November 201. Mass Media Effect On Promoting Copycat Mass Murders Media Essay. Retrieved from https://www.ukessays.com/essays/med...ng-copycat-mass-murders-media-essay.php?vref=

 

Your implied claim that media don't lie about Trump.

 

Yep. It is incredibly sad, shocking, and sickening that this isn't obvious to trumpers. Trump is following the recipe of a banana republic and tyrannical dictators. People like him are definitively the enemy of any free society.

 

Or, it's just another silly 'Trump is Hitler' meme.

 

Oh just another, "you can't see the elephant in the room meme".

I didn't need memes, the MSM, or anyone to tell me what kind of sick and dangerous person trump is. I knew it after watching his first rally. It is obvious to anyone who can think critically.

When you are mindlessly driven by right-wing brainwashing and brain death, trump makes perfect sense.

 

You know something, a lot of us recall when the press of the USA operated with very high journalist standards. A pure accusation was not then treated as were the proof around the corner and coming from Democrats.

But the internet that changed shopping habits, changed bank habits, changed buying car habits, changed dialogue among nations habits, now has in America a press that was outraged Trump won and vowed to bring him down.

Impeach him was headlined in the press.

The dialogue among democrats in congress is ways to impeach Trump.

Why are the congress so brave after seeing ht worked the last time it was tried? Clinton should not have been impeached over his strange deals on the whitewater deals but his lying to courts was open to impeachment. he crossed the line. But Democrats bled us silly yelling it was over sex. That is not what the documents used in congress said. They never filed any indictment about sex. It was his lying to courts of law and to a grand jury.

 

It's obvious, to anyone who can think, that Trump isn't Hitler, or Stalin, or Mao.

 

The Government of the United States is owned by We the People.
Our Founders made a special point of that as part of a citizen's
charter.That is why it irks certain true conservatives like Mark Levin
and also Alex Jones.That Democrats and Globalist talk and act like
this Country belongs to them.With their shady organizations like the
SPLC and Media Matters and even ACLU.
No one person,party,group will ever own the United States.
The United States of America was founded on the principle of a
Republic.

The Federalist
" It is of great importance in a Republic not only to guard
the society against the Oppression of it's ruler's,but to guard
one part of the society against the injustice of the other part.
If men were angels,no government would be necessary. "
-- James Madison { 4th President of the United States }