The problem with keeping all guns locked in a safe

I kept most of mine in a safe primarily because of the value I had in my collection, many being valued historic pieces.
I was trained very young not to touch any of my Da’s guns without permission, trained to safe any gun I might find, and continually drilled in gun safety, something rarely done in these days of abdication of education to the State.

Both my girls were similarly trained, both had their own guns before age 10, and both had the combination to the safe for access to their guns and in case of emergency, mine, were I not home. They are both well disciplined and both better shots than I. Both highly skilled in martial arts, knives, and weapons of opportunity as well and both have the ‘don’t tread on me attitude’. Any would be rapist won’t be met with the piss herself defense method of an anti, but someone likely to cause a rapist to piss themself. Btw, the youngest had a fellow get a bit too aggressive with her while yet in HS...she broke his wrist, got suspended (for defending herself), and his family wanted to sue. The boy intervened, fessed up to the school, stopped his parents from suing, accepted responsibility and apologized very publically directly to her. Three years later they married and have a marriage based on mutual respect.... he is now a police officer, a Captain, in Chicago. He still laughs about his wife kicking his a**.

While now an empty nester, if any children are to be about, particularly, those I don’t know, all my guns get locked up, and if I have adult visitors, they are warned not to pick up any gun they encounter without me present because all my guns are loaded (they aren’t necssisarily). I don’t need a law passed by someone thinking they need to nanny responsibility on me or mine, particularly, when they likely have no basis for managing their own.

 

I too taught my children gun safety, and I didn't worry about them. But they constantly had friends in and out of the house during their pre-teen and teen years when I wasn't home, so my solution was the one I was comfortable with.

 

I doubt you were inspired by gun nanny laws for you to decide how to excersize your self imposed responsibility.

 

Correct. I didn't need any law telling me to do that.

 

I keep mine near none of anyones business.

 

Gee, how liberal unPatriotic and unAmerican. You are a heathen like me.

 

It isn’t.

 

The majority of which are acts of suicide, which is not relevant to the discussion, and will not be discussed.

 

When will people get that Suicide is intangible, inscrutable, impossible to predict and not something any physician can diagnose or prevent or predict.

Any positive claims to predicting or prevention of suicide, is pure snake oil remedies and quack cure alls.

The only end result will be to push people's suicidal ideations underground, they certainly will not seek help.

If you want mentally ill people to seek help, confidentiality is the only method that has any hope of success.

Doctor Patient Confidentiality.
Attourney / Client Priveledge.
Priest / Parisioner sanctity of the confessional.
The Fifth amendment.
Ample precedent in law, perhaps the A.M.A
needs to reconsider its current gun control proposals.

 

Isn’t that a little simplistic, ignoring all the different possible uses for different firearms? Obviously a gun intended as a home or personal defence weapon needs to be immediately to hand but someone with multiple guns isn’t going to need them all at the same time and isn’t going to need hunting, sport or working guns when they’re in bed so a gun safe in those contexts makes perfect sense and shouldn’t be discouraged. After all, without it the son could have just faked a robbery, taken the guns and sold them on the criminals.

There also seems to be other factors in this case you’re overlooking too. The son was working with the criminals but argued with them before they even entered the house so the home-owner having a gun wouldn’t have made a difference at that point. You’d also expect the son might have done something about any personal defence gun his father had as part of the plan. It’s possible that a gun might have helped the couple when they did encounter the criminals in their home but obviously that isn’t guaranteed and if there was a prospect of an armed home owner, the criminals may well have brought firearms of their own.