The Problem With Modern Politics

The problem with modern politics is that it is being fueled by hate. That hate has become so intense that if someone puts forward the idea that people should love and share with one another, that message, and the messenger as well, will be shot down. Hate is like that. Hate makes one blind to not only the interests of society as a whole, but to one's own self interest as well. With regards to one self interest, there is an old saying that the bed you make is the one you have to lie in. Modern leaders may think that they are being very clever when they leverage the hate of their followers for their own self aggrandizement. They may even engage in the self deception that they are acting in the interests of society when they do so. However the only result of hate will be more hate, and as a result of that hate, destruction. Therefore we see a constant state of war all over the world. Now someone may say that there is no war in the United States. However, because there is hate there, we see that there is war also. War in the sense that there is a battle, based on hatred of the opposing party, in politics, in racial relations, in social relations, and in economic relations. As such, there cannot be any substantial peace, and how can there be substantial happiness without peace?

On the international stage we see that powerful opposing parties possess nuclear weapons. Although there have been attempts to wed these parties through economic means so that they will be forced to peacefully coexist, still we see that there is conflict. This conflict has the potential to break out into nuclear war which will ruin the whole world. That is the product of hate. Unfortunately, the world is being led by people who are blind and have no sense of these things.

The only solution to this problem is for the leaders and their followers to become humble and try to understand the fault in this type of behavior. Otherwise hate will consume and destroy modern civilization.

 

It is interesting to note that the purveyors of hate may profess a patriotic love for their country. However, their love is superficial. This can be easily seen from the fact that when a leader from the opposition comes to power, they hate the leader, the followers, and the government that is implemented by the leader. Then some go so far as to recommend a separate government or a destruction of the government. Thus their love of country is ripped to shreds by the power of their hatred.

 

Here's Michael Savage for example

 

The unique concept leading to the formation of our system of government was that the people of a nation could effectively govern themselves if they would individually commit to adopt a uniform fundamental set of values which would ensure a nation united in its purpose despite individual differences. . . . Diversity CAN BE a good thing.

"United we stand , divided we fall."

 

To bastardize Voltaire, "If hate didn't exist, it would be necessary for the Left to create it."

 

Your implication that the Right is the innocent victim is not reinforced by your resistance to reconciliation.

 

Interesting claim, in that a significant % of the left sees itself as post-nationalist.

 

The nonleft, including the RW, has many faults. Perpetuating resentment-based, hyperbolic lie narratives on "hate" as part of a mass advertising campaign in lieu of public policy positions isn't a statistically significant one.

For every hateful repetition of lies perpetuated by the 2000 or so RW white supremacists and other RW nuts in the country, there are 1000 hateful lies repeated in the LW gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex and its various grievance industries towards self-enrichment.

 

It's not love or hate, it's simply following the rule of law.

When some individuals, regardless of political affiliation, are able to thwart the rule of law, we've lost what it means to be an American.

When partisans begin defending the person (again, regardless of the rule of law) this results in hatred for the opposition...

 

I agree, the right did this for 8 years under Obama, those republicans are still in office and now to them, the moderates on the right are not even right enough now, it's crazy

helping dreamers is a good example, most republicans and democrats think we should help them - the alt-right in Congress is against this

 

That's what happens when you ask other people to share their stuff.
Because that isn't an act of love.

An act of love is when you offer to share your stuff.
Do that, and you will feel the love.

 

Your unsubstantiated partisan assessment is noted, but do you SERIOUSLY expect me to acknowledge its credibility???

 

Dude it's not hateful to say " no you cannot steal from me".
Enough of this. You take the position by implication which you rail against explicitly.

 

Do I detect a subtle partisan jab involving specifics???

 

Since 99% of the "Hate" comes from the RW Fever Swamp ECHO Chamber (i.e., the Triggered Racists, Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists, Etc...) that facilitated Trump's Election--your statement is not only hideously misguided, but beyond COMICAL.

Carry on.

 

You are exactly the sort of person described by the OP.
Thank you for being so illustrative.

 

Krishna tells Arjuna to go to war and fight those whom Arjuna would rather learn from. I don't think Krishna would hesitate in telling Arjuna to go to war with radical Islam.

 

I was sitting here for 8 years condemning the right wing for mindlessly bashing Obama due to hate.

I am sitting here condemning the progressive left for mindlessly bashing Trump due to hate.

Funny how you only care for the former.

 

This should not be partisan in the least. But imagine the outrage, for example, if Republicans had done their best to shield Nixon and he escaped accountability.

But obviously, there have been many other times where Republicans were hyper-partisan to avoid accountability, just as Democrats have done so.

This is why so many of us distrust Washington DC...

 

I might agree with you if I FULLY understood your implications, but I don't believe that to be a comprehensive explanation for partisan hate.

 

Human nature.
Aggression is a survival instinct. We need it.
Territorialism is a survival instinct. We need it.

Resources are finite. We gang up to better compete for them.
We cannot all be on the same side, because we are rivals for the resources we need to survive.

 

No implications. While I appreciated your observations of us loving one another, I'd think you'd agree it is not realistic?

And while it would be great if American's love for one another was enough for a competent Fed.gov to exist, it won't. One side wants what some consider an intrusive federal government to act as overseers, while others wish for what some consider a government that doesn't care for its people.

And that's a wide avenue to breach...

 

Conservatives and liberals both agree for the most part that we should emulate the basic precepts adopted by our founding fathers. . . . Allow me to repeat my original post:

The unique concept leading to the formation of our system of government was that the people of a nation could effectively govern themselves if they would individually commit to adopt a uniform fundamental set of values which would ensure a nation united in its purpose despite individual differences. . . . Diversity CAN BE a good thing.

"United we stand , divided we fall."

 

We are witnessing a black swan - an extreme and unusual aberration. This too will pass if we don't end up in a nuclear war first.

There is nothing new under the sun. But I don't see any basis for the US to continue at it exists. 30-40% or so of this country wants a white nation. The only real option I see is to break up the country and let them have their own country. The fact is, this culture war is about values. Half the country doesn't share core common values with the other half. And the Civil War never really ended. For this reason I support West Coast Secession.

The States need to get a divorce based on irreconcilable differences.

 

I don't care in the least what you or people like you do.