The Progressive Agenda means the Right to Earn a Living Wage for All Americans.

Whataboutism deflection duly noted and ignored for obvious reasons.

 

No genuinely honest person would be gullible enough to believe that load of alt right bovine excrement in the first place,

 

"Empathy and compassion".....lolz! Sounds like another childish argument.

 

Thank you for pointing out some of the obstacles and failures that have been encountered when it comes to changing the current economic malaise into something that works for We the People.

Please read this entire article since it is a more eloquent summation of how we got to where we are today than I can write.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-ayres/america-the-land-of-oppor_1_b_5208374.html

What that article highlights is the stark difference between the America that we grew up believing in and what it has become today where all of those ideals and principles have been sacrificed on the high alter of Greed is Good.

In essence the Progressive Agenda is to restore those ideals and principles and overturn the egregious fallacy that greed is good.

The problem with doing this at the state level, as you pointed out, is that it needs to be done at the Federal level if it is going to be effective. Not to deflect but gun control in CA is negated by the absence of gun control in NV right next door. The same principle applies when it comes to trying to regulate corporations to pay living wages. They will avoid them if it just means going elsewhere.

So how does this work at the Federal level instead? To put it bluntly it involves leveling the playing field so that it no longer matters if a pair of jeans are made in China or the USA they should cost exactly the same amount to the consumer. Yes, that means imposing taxes on corporations that employ cheap labor overseas instead of paying Americans living wages here instead.

Corporations will still make profits because that is what they do but those profits will just be more in line with what we grew up with. The wealthy are just going to have to work a whole lot harder for their dividends and capital gains instead of just sitting on their asses and having it handed to them via taxcut welfare.

Yes, there will be those who leave and that is where OPPORTUNITIES will open up for hardworking Americans to start Mondragon style worker owned corporations to fill the gap. The advantage of these worker owned corporations is that the profits remain within the community and our local US economy instead of ending up in offshore bank accounts.

This system works very well in other civilized western nations so there is no reason why it cannot be implemented here. All it takes is the political will to make it happen and once again We the People will be back in control of OUR own government and our future.

 

Anyone who has actually worked for a living understands what it means to be able to pay all of the bills.

 

Fixing things on the "Federal level"? Hahaha! Where have you been for the past several decades? Corporations these days are global. That means even "the federal level" will not affect them. These global corporations will just leave the US. This has been proven in the past decade. Taxes and regulations will just cause them to leave.

Try again.

 

Those 4 suggestions in the other thread make perfect sense and yes, I can see why some would object but they always boil down to who pays for them. My suggestion would be that those solutions should be implemented nationwide and we raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations to pay for them.

The same applies to the issues we are facing in this nation today. We are in our current situation because we gave away TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to the wealthy 1%. That needs to end because we can't afford any more welfare for the wealthy any longer.

 

LOL! Once again, raise taxes on wealthy and corporations......broken record pipe dream! Those with money will find tax loopholes or just leave....then what?

 

I remember seeing this shotgunned all over Twitter a while back. We just had 8 years of Obama. Why is this being brought up now?

And why Latina women compared to white men? Why not Latina women vs Asian men?

You do realize that Asians are top earners in this country right? But don't let your racism get in the way of facts.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...rsists-asian-american-men-top-average-n602076

But I expect this from ignorant Twitter sheep. Gotta pull the race card for their failures in life.

 

The "we gotta raise taxes"crowd has never heard of Hauser's law:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauser's_law

No matter how much taxes have been raised since WW2 the US has never been able to collect more than approximately 19% of GDP.

Here is a hint: Raising taxes will not work

 

Of course the resident socialists have failed once again. Their answer is always "raise taxes" but as I have shown they cannot tax their way to utopia. This is not how economics works and never has. Idiots like Bernie Sanders are trying to sell this nonsense with childish arguments. "The rich are evil!".....geez, who would fall for such nonsense?

 

Children, Bernie supporters are a lot like children they do believe in Santa but they forgot to be a good boy/girl/it

 

Wrong.

My statements were proven by my links which debunked you which is why you refused to read it.

I presented no alt right disinformation i presented credible sources DESTROYING your argument.

It is you doing the projecting little one.

 

You asked for thoughts did you not? Seems to me the only deflection is the one you provided. If you are not interested in others thoughts on a subject then don’t ask for them.

 

Agreed. It's satisfying to earn a living. It means you can exercise control over your life. What does this have to do with the thread topic? You are promoting the idea that an employer must be forced to pay a "living" wage to all workers. Why do you have the right to force an employer to pay a worker what you think is a "living" wage?

 

You didn't earn that paycheck.

 

Too vague. "Paying the bills" means different things to different people. I know plenty of people who make poor decisions concerning the bills they acquire. They live beyond their means and end up in debt and with bills for things they could have done without. Poor decisions on their part should not place a burden on the employer, the consumer, or the taxpayer. Their poor decisions do not make society responsible for their lack of financial responsibility.

If you are going to advocate for a living wage, you need to be specific. Explain what that entails. "Paying the bills" is not an adequate answer. How can anyone take you seriously or agree with your premise when you can't even explain the details of what a living wage would be?

 

Thank you. And please note that the OP refuses to give the details of what he or she thinks a living wage is, or what "paying the bills" entails.

 

Your alt right kneejerk denial of reality does not alter reality one iota! My FACTUAL posts still stand uncontested.

 

Your "thoughts" were 100% whataboutism that attempted to derail the thread topic which is the Progressive Agenda and the right to a living wage. Nowhere did you even try to address the income inequality that EXISTS and is HARMING hardworking Americans. Instead you just engaged in a meaningless regurgitation of the alt right disinformation that has been used as a feeble excuse to justify stealing the raises and bonuses of hardworking Americans.

Yes, you are entitled to post that drivel but you don't have the right to demand that I waste my time on dealing with nonsensical disinformation that has been debunked umpteen times already.

This thread is about moving forward and redressing the FAILURE of the whataboutism that you seem to be fixated upon.

 

Why do you have a right to force TAXPAYERS to SUBSIDIZE the PAYROLLS of FOR PROFIT corporations?

 

More free stuff! That is your answer!

 

Your personal anecdotes are utterly meaningless.

The MAJORITY of hardworking Americans are RESPONSIBLE people who DON'T make "poor decisions".

If you persist in using debunked alt right disinformation to disparage and denigrate the majority of hardworking Americans you will not be taken seriously.

 

I don't have this right. I didn't say that I did. Subsidies to corporations are a violation of everyone's right to their income. Now tell me why you have the right to force employers to pay their workers what you think is a "living" wage?

 

Because CURRENTLY corporations are FORCING TAXPAYERS to SUBSIDIZE their PAYROLLS.

Most conservatives want to end welfare.

When corporations pay living wages their workers do NOT need welfare in the form of taxpayer subsidies for food, housing and medical care.

The solution to ending welfare is OBVIOUS.

Make corporations pay living wages to hardworking Americans and welfare will no longer be needed except for those who are disabled.

However if you don't believe that We the People through the government OF the People and FOR the People have the power to pass this legislation then conservatives are just going to have to suck it up and deal with having to pay taxes to SUBSIDIZE corporate PAYROLLS.