The Psychology of 9/11 & "Brainwashing"

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  1. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    Complain to whoever made the OP. See if he cares.

    psik
     
  2. Hannibal

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    Defeated in the OP, the 'truther' radically changes the subject.

    I understand.

    Looks like Jojo has you covered. He's a perfect example of what BLD was describing.
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    still got that hat over your eye huh,.....

    no wonder you cant see anything.
     
  4. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    :lol: Wow! You really are funny! How the hell did you come up with friction? I guess you have to have every little detail spelled out for you. The paper you glue/tape to the dowel gets folded out to support the washer like the truss supports between the core and the trusses. When the dynamic load from the washers above hit the washer, the paper that is folded out will no longer be able to hold the load for that washer (floor) and fail. Lather rinse repeat all the way down.

    So use your imagination! :lol: This isn't a perfect model and I've never claimed it was. It shows how the upper structures can completely collapse the lower structures; something you claim is impossible. The fact that the act of the floors collapsing also destroys the core both from tearing the supports outward but from the internals of the core pushing outward isn't something you're going to model with a toy made of dowels and washers.

    Which is completely unlike the towers. :lol: You still can't get it right.

    Not with the imprecision and simple structures you're using. They didn't use simple structures or imprecision when building the towers, and each floor was ONLY DESIGNED to support that floor, not the ones above. That was solely the job of the core and the outer lattice. Once that became compromised, so did it's ability to support the rest of the structure.

    So which part of the square cube law did you not understand?

    And thank you for proving once again beyond any shadow of a doubt that you don't understand what a dynamic load is and why the towers were never designed to support the kind of dynamic load presented by over 10% of the building suddenly accelerating to ~19 mph.
     
  5. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    You are still making the dowel part of the vertical support structure. The dowel will not collapse Your design is irrelevant.

    psik
     
  6. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    It isn't my fault you're unable to understand that my model clearly demonstrates that the collapse could have happened. Then again, explaining anything to someone who actually thinks his "model" accurately portrays the complex structures and dynamics of the World Trade Center Towers enough to prove a collapse was impossible isn't going to understand much of anything in the real world.
     
  7. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    My video includes an explanation of modeling by THE GREAT RYAN MACKEY.

    Complain to him. :-D

    But then not a single engineering school has said anything about making a model that can collapse. But then 9/11 is such an UNIMPORTANT EVENT. It is not worthy of their attention.

    psik
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    He isn't here making ludicrous claims about a retarded toy. You are. It doesn't surprise me you would run away from having to face the fact your retarded toy doesn't represent anything other than your inability to understand scale and dynamic loads. :lol:
     
  9. Whiteandaware

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    An expert on controlled demolition, Danny Jowenko, was asked to review the video of a building collapse.
    How can a 47 story building completely collapse into its own footprint in less than 7 seconds?
    Category:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1Lh7lYMNo"]YouTube - WTC 7 COLLAPSE REVIEWED BY DEMOLITION EXPERT 1[/ame]
     
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    How about,Yes it did! l

    WTC Building #7, a 47-story high-rise not hit by an airplane, exhibits all the characteristics of classic controlled demolition with explosives:[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSyqfM-Rgy0"]YouTube - The FREE-FALL ACCELERATION of WTC Building 7, David Chandler, AE911truth.org[/ame]

    To learn the truth about what really happen on 911,watch:http://missinglinksmovie.blogspot.com/
     
  11. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Taking up spamming the same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) everywhere? You're not going to last long if that is the case.

    Why couldn't you respond to the fact WTC 7 DIDN'T fall in its own footprint?

    As for Jowenko, it is pretty funny that truthtards had to find someone overseas who didn't speak English and who wasn't told all the facts, and was shown a video with no audio so he wouldn't notice the complete lack of explosives going off before they could find someone who said what they wanted to hear. :lol:
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    You mean it showed all the characteristics of a controlled demolition EXCEPT....
    • the fact there were no explosions before or during the collapse.
    • the fact no explosions were caught on seismographs located in downtown Manhattan and at the permanent site at Lamont Doerty.
    • the fact WTC 7 was showing signs of collapse HOURS before it actually collapsed that were so bad it forced the FDNY to set up a perimeter around the building.
    • the fact no signs of explosives, wiring, detonators or any other physical evidence of a CD were ever found.
    • the fact WTC 7 didn't fall into it's own footprint and damaged the buildings around it.


    You mean besides all those facts, right? Or are you hoping everyone will forget about those facts so your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories seem less silly.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    geezus nothing said in the above post is a fact

    fanciful blathering, and even stooping to lies since there was a man who testified there was explosions under oath to the comittee.

    getting a bit to rough out here for ya huh.... LMAO
     
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    WTC7 was hit by a 110 story building (bigger than a plane, you know?) The fires resulting from that impact caused the collapse of WTC7.
    It did not fall into it's own footprint, it damaged several surrounding buildings.

    Those are facts.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    really? prove and prove the damage.


    oh wait we went that dead end with you already didnt we.
     
  16. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    What would have happened in 2002 if most of the engineering schools had publicly announced that airliners could not possibly have done that in such a short time?

    But after NINE YEARS how can they come out an say it without looking ridiculous? Is that why there is so much silence?

    But physics is incapable of giving a (*)(*)(*)(*) about psychology.

    Building a physical model that depends on STATICS and DYNAMICS gets one accused of not understanding STATICS and DYNAMICS.

    OOPS!

    LOL

    And then Purdue makes a computer simulation that they claim is SCIENTIFIC but the core columns don't move even though the NIST provided empirical data indicating the south tower moved 15 inches at the impact level. Purdue is SO SCIENTIFIC!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddIgb1nGJ8"]YouTube - Scientists simulate jet colliding with World Trade Center[/ame]

    psik
     
  17. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    More empty drivel. Why is it you can never back up your bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? :lol:

    I can show you videos where not only can you hear the collapse and not hear any explosions AT ALL, but the reactions of the people to the collapse make it very plain that there were no explosions because none of them were startled.

    You claim there is seismic evidence of explosives? Present the evidence or be proven once again a massive liar.

    You claim the fire department didn't evacuate the area around WTC 7 because it was showing signs of collapse? I can link numerous firefighter testimony talking about the signs of collapse and the evacuation from around WTC 7. Where is your evidence? Present it or once again be proven a massive liar.

    You claim I am wrong about the complete lack of evidence of explosives? Present your evidence there was explosives or prove to everyone here you still have nothing but bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    The buildings around WTC 7 were hit by falling debris, yet you claim they weren't. So what damaged the buildings around WTC 7? Present your evidence no building was damaged by WTC 7 and thus WTC 7 fell within its own footprint or be once again branded a liar.

    Now run away, junior. Your irrelevance is showing!
     
  18. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and, as usual, you got your ass handed to you. The eyewitness testimonies of numerous FDNY firefighters outweighed your unsubstantiated bull(*)(*)(*)(*) by numerous orders of magnitude.

    Then again, the irony of someone like you who NEVER backs up their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) with any kind of evidence DEMANDING someone else prove something is quite hysterical!
     
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    :puke:

    How much do you get payed to regurgitate the government's/zionist lies?



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-VtdTO5Tgo"]YouTube - 9/11 Rescue Firemen Hear Huge Explosions in WTC[/ame]
     
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    That sure sounds like explosions to me??:omg:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw"]YouTube - 9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings![/ame]



    This should be of great concern to REAL Americans. We are being led to kill and be killed NOT as a result of American interests but as a result of being manipulated by a foreign country(Israel)for their gain. The recent Harvard study exposing the Israeli Lobby(AIPAC) role as the main cause of America getting into the war in Iraq and also leading America into a war with Iran confirms this.

    Save America,dump Israel :)
     
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    candycorn New Member Past Donor

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    Wow, you should do something about that.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sad, but true....


    http://criminalstate.com/2010/12/the-enemy-within/

    The Enemy Within


    December 30, 2010
    by Jeff Gates


    "The phrase “enemy within” brings to mind the image of a shadowy spy stealing military secrets. That was the case for Israeli master spy Jonathan Pollard jailed for 1980s espionage that compromised U.S. Cold War strategy.

    That phrase also describes those involved in a form of psy-ops that is not easily detected because it operates so brazenly. For instance, the well-timed release of diplomatic cables by WikiLeaks displaced reports of Israeli obstinacy in peace talks with reports of a need for war with Iran.

    That operation relied on editors at four major newspapers chosen by WikiLeaks to manage the releases. Despite the delight at their impact voiced by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, mainstream media failed to mention the possibility of undisclosed bias by those who chose what to release and when.

    The bias of The New York Times is well known. Less clear is the role of Ian Katz, Deputy Editor at The Guardian (London) and Executive Editor Sylvie Kauffman at Le Monde in Paris. The geopolitical success of the WikiLeaks operation suggests an enemy within.

    Israeli duplicity often operates through what U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates describes as “the people in between.” When waging unconventional warfare, those people are the most dangerous combatants, particularly those operatives in mainstream media.

    The People in Between

    For systems of governance reliant on informed consent, nothing could be more perilous. The “people in between” routinely target media—freedom’s greatest vulnerability—as a means for displacing facts with what a targeted populace can be deceived to believe.

    How old is this duplicity? How long have false beliefs been used to manipulate behavior? Modern technology—particularly media—enables deception on a global scale. Between the American populace and the facts they require to protect their freedom—that’s where this enemy within imbeds its operatives.

    The false intelligence claiming Iraqi WMD was a people-in-between operation. Judith Miller at The New York Times fed us a steady diet of front-page news that we now know was fixed around Israeli goals promoted by Ahmad Chalabi, a London-based Iraqi expatriate who, like Israel, sought regime change in Iraq.

    Pentagon insider Richard Perle developed Chalabi over two decades. A Jewish Zionist, Perle has long been a strategically well-placed “person in between.” Miller left The Times and joined Fox News and then Newsmax.

    Yet the impact of complicit media pales in comparison to the enemy within that brought the U.S. economy to its knees and undermined national security at its financial core.

    Imbedded Inside

    The most devastating in this chronicle of enemies is the most difficult to see. As with other “in between” operations, this too succeeds by displacing facts with false beliefs. Only in this case, those beliefs were imbedded in education and over decades worked their way into law.

    Known as the “Washington Consensus,” this widely shared perspective shapes economic policy worldwide. At the heart of this generally accepted truth is found the belief that money should be accountable only to itself.

    In this mindset, financial freedom is an article of faith. Instead of the civil rights refrain, “Let my people go,” its proponents insist: “Let my money go.” Allow money the freedom to work its will worldwide and everything will work out fine.

    That shared belief works “in between” in the same way that Jonathan Pollard undermined national security, WikiLeaks shifted attention to Iran and Judith Miller induced us to war in Iraq. Only in this case a false belief has been so thoroughly internalized that it’s difficult to see because this shared mindset has become that with which we have been educated to do our seeing.

    A Global Sanhedrin

    The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund are the primary apostles of this consensus faith. The World Trade Organization (WTO) now seeks to take this belief to global scale by enforcing unrestricted free trade not only in goods and services but also financial capital.

    The WTO operates like a global Sanhedrin akin to a Jewish high council accountable only to itself. What’s now emerging as a global enemy within is a finance-guided form of transnational governance marketed as free trade but accountable only to itself.

    That ’self’ traces its origins to an internalized mindset in which financial freedom serves, by consensus, as a proxy for personal freedom. That mindset was decades in the making.

    This modern-day Mindset Warfare is being waged by an enemy that is truly within. Fast globalizing financial forces now induce us to freely embrace the very forces that undermine our freedom.

    By waging war on us from the inside out, the originators of this money-myopic mindset dismantled the U.S. economy, enabled vast financial pillaging and induced us to fiscal ruin.

    Those wielding this weaponry operate from our internal shadows as the Zionist entity within."
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Why do you believe every loud bang had to be explosives going off? :lol: Why is it not one of those firefighters believe the explosions were caused by explosives as proven by the FACT not one real firefighter on 9/11 has ever come forward claiming there were explosives going off on 9/11. Truthtards have to use the dishonest tactic of putting words in the firefighters mouths to make the firefighters say what they want them to say.
     
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    There there, WAA. It's OK. Those WERE explosions! Unfortunately for you and your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories, explosions don't equate to explosives. LOTS of things don't like fires and will explode if exposed to high heat. WTC 7 had 12 transformers inside the building where the fires were. Ever hear a transformer explode? Very loud bang!

    See, the problem with truthtards is they take a fact (loud explosions heard) and decide they know for a fact what caused the fact despite all the evidence to the contrary and despite the fact that there are other far more plausible explanations that make far more sense.
     
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    yeh beer farts makes more sense

    I bet it really stanked a lot huh
     

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