The Psychology of 9/11 & "Brainwashing"

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  1. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    :lol: That's pretty funny coming from you! You have yet to post an original thought. You have to let your Jew hating "friends" tell you what to think. Pretty sad. Want proof? Why is it you can't actually tell me WHY what I stated is bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? See, to have credibility, you need to be able to demonstrate that you can do more than personal insults and meaningless drivel.

    Want to know what polls have to do with the truth? Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing! :lol: If everyone quits believing in gravity, does that make gravity go away?
     
  2. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    A direct link to this 'Scientific Poll', please.
     
  3. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Wanna bet he is taking everyone that doesn't 100% believe we know everything that happened on 9/11? I don't think we know everything that happened on 9/11. That doesn't mean I reject the "official" story, but that never stops truthtards trying to distort the truth into pretending everyone who has any doubts at all is really a truthtard. :lol:
     
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    The disinformation agents and Zionist are noticing that 911 is backfiring on them and so they try to distract people from the truth with nonsense.There have been some opinion polls showing that the public has largely woken up to the 911 conspiracy and that the people defending the government are in the minority.

    One website skeptical of the official 911 story announces “Welcome to Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth! (We have) 230 architectural and engineering professionals and 582 other supporters including A/E students (who) have joined us in demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation.” There are dozens of suspicious circumstances surrounding the 911 event.
    http://www.ae911truth.org/


    Also a ex-president of Italy, Francesco Cossiga has told the respected Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that “the disastrous (911) attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Cossiga

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/9-11_solved118.html

    http://us.altermedia.info/news-of-i...an-president-says-911-an-inside-job_2776.html


    RT interviewed Jesse Ventura about being censored by the Huffington Post for asking too many questions about 9/11 and Zionist controlled America.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpyAyIqeFOg&playnext=1&list=PL1A624F55B581E3C7"]YouTube - Jesse Ventura censored by The Huffington Post[/ame]


    The truth doesn't fear investigation.Only those who have something to hide fear the truth.
     
  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    That's nice. Please directly link the 'Scientific Poll' You cited earlier. Unless you fear the truth.
     
  6. Whiteandaware

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    How's the weather in Israel?
     
  7. Hannibal

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    Currently 50 degrees and humid in the birthplace of Jesus the Jew.

    Now if you can, please directly link to the 'Scientific Poll' you cited earlier.
     
  8. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Again, polls don't mean (*)(*)(*)(*). They don't alter the truth.

    Nobody is fearing the truth. The truth is there in plain sight. It has been investigated in the largest single investigation ever in US history. Truthtards like to pretend the investigation is somehow flawed, yet have zero evidence of any major flaw in the investigation.

    So why should we, the American people, spend hundreds of millions MORE dollars on an investigation that is going to come to the same conclusions and that truthtards are going to ignore? THAT makes no sense whatsoever. Truthtards prove time and time again they are more than willing to overlook critical, irrefutable evidence simply because it destroys their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories.

    Now, if you truthtards ever actually come up with some real evidence, then you can start the legal ball rolling towards a new investigation IF you can convince anyone that your evidence proves the entire FBI investigation was flawed or compromised. Good luck with that one! :lol:
     
  9. Hannibal

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    One of the sneakiest things those darn Zionists do is to pose as white, racist Americans on random message boards.

    It's patently obvious who they answer to. They constantly brag about how powerful their masters are.

    /satire
     
  10. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    But doesn't it take ENERGY to deform and break things?

    What is the source of the ENERGY?

    If the ENERGY comes from the Kinetic Energy of the falling mass isn't it going to SLOW DOWN?

    So it SLOWS DOWN level after level until it no longer has enough energy to crush another level.

    IT STOPS!!!

    But then we don't have accurate data on the distributions of STEEL and CONCRETE in the towers and no reports on the amount of ENERGY necessary to DISTORT/BREAK the LEVELS all of the way down. So at best we don't have the data to solve the problem.

    That is what this model demonstrates.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caATBZEKL4c"]YouTube - Gravitational Collapse onto Cumulative Supports[/ame]

    Physics is incapable of giving a (*)(*)(*)(*) what people call things. Mass is mass, gravity is gravity, and energy is energy. The entire solar system is just another toy from the perspective of a galaxy.

    psik
     
  11. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)! Wake up and smell the coffee already! You're pretending that gravity doesn't exist. Gravity continues to pull all the debris down and every inch it pulls it down, it adds to the kinetic energy of the whole. IF there is resistance equal to or greater than the kinetic energy, THEN it stops.

    You've been shown there was around 3.5 billion foot pounds of force unleashed by the collapse. That was far more than what would be needed to destroy the floor beneath it and keep right on going, adding debris and speed to the whole mess as more kinetic energy was added to the equation.

    For the last time, quit with the completely ignorant bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about not knowing the distributions of steel and concrete. It isn't how much steel but how that steel was constructed that matters, and you've already admitted to having the weight of the concrete.

    The towers were built to be light and strong. You do that with structures that through their design hold up far more than the straight up materials can hold up on their own.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmLnxIKHJYY]Example[/ame]

    Here is a good example. Bridges made out of toothpicks holding up over 500 pounds of weight. Different designs can support different weights but they all support far more weight than they ever could if you just glued a bunch of toothpicks together.

    This is where you're missing the point. Take one of those bridges in my example and destroy some of the supports. You weaken the entire structure to the point where it can not support the weight it once could.


    Your retarded little toy only demonstrates the extreme ignorance of your claims.

    Wrong yet again.

    As I just showed you, mass isn't JUST mass. Steel in one configuration is going to react differently than other configurations. That is the whole science behind engineering. Some things in physics don't care about the kind of mass. Kinetic energy is a prime example. But when you start getting in to how that energy reacts with the lower structure, THAT is where engineering takes over and you can't just pretend a retarded little toy actually represents what happened on 9/11 and expect people to believe it.

    Funny how the NIST comes out with extensive computer models that are ignored by truthtards, yet a retarded toy is held up as what really happened in the towers. :lol:
     
  12. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    why not you just did!!!!!!!!!!

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  13. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    ROFLMAO

    The NIST didn't analyze the supposed collapses of WTC 1& 2.

    They just said collapse was inevitable. They don't specify the total amount of concrete in the towers though they do it for the steel in three places and they do not specify the distribution of the steel although they say in two places that knowledge of the distribution of mass is necessary just to analyze the plane impact.

    You just keep coming out and CLAIMING BS is True.

    psik
     
  14. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    True. They did for WTC 7 because the initiation of the collapse had to be explained throughout the collapse. With the towers they needed to show how the collapse initiated. They and the vast majorities of engineers and experts understand that you get that much mass moving and there is NO chance of the lower structure being able to support it.

    And thank you for ignoring everything else I said. :lol: Makes you look like a broken record constantly restating obviously incorrect information. Keep up the good work!

    Yet all you are capable of doing is claiming it is BS. You can't come up with anything to refute my claims.

    So lets look at them:

    Claim 1: The core was made up of 47 horizontal beams that ran the height of the building supported by braces at every floor.

    Claim 2: The core was designed to be strong vertically.

    Claim 3: The braces were not able to support the dynamic loads placed on them by the debris.

    Claim 4: The vertical columns would be deformed by the debris forcing columns apart and by the floors ripping from the core.

    Claim 5: One cannot look at the weight alone of the steel for determining how it would react in a collapse since the structure the steel is in determines how it is going to react.

    Claim 6: A structure designed to be strong as a whole loses that strength when the structure itself is compromised.

    So go ahead, psyk. Show me where those claims are BS.
     
  15. psikeyhackr

    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    The weight of the steel is increased to increase the strength. They are related characteristics. I consider that to be obvious so I don't bother mentioning it.

    The structure may have been compromised where the plane hit and the fire occurred but below that it should have been intact. So supposedly the the portion of the north tower above the impact zone in the north tower had to "destroy" everything below.

    So weight is the obvious method to specify how the steel was distributed below.

    The south tower is another problem because the NIST does not specify the center of mass and the center of rotation of the top portion.

    psik
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    It is a shame you cannot understand such simple and elementary concepts. It sure explains a lot, though!!!
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    everytime I read the posts of the gub supporters I have to laugh my ass off.

    Psy check this out if you have never seen it before. Using nists numbers look what you have to do to get it to fail LOL

    Then you listen to the gub ***** and you know you should be in terror of going into any building the gub was involved with because a cigarette lighter and a wayward sparrow might bring it down!



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExmSMU9ls-w"]YouTube - WTC Finite Element Analysis[/ame]
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    So a bunch of moronic truthtards make a video and pretend to be experts should be trusted? :lol: The ONLY group that has less credibility than truthtards is the flat earth society. So pardon me if I don't believe your bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Koko.
     
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    awe does that bother you that they use the gubtards data and cant get it to fail?

    As always I am laughing.... gubtards are well you know.... *****.
     
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    Doesn't bother me at all. Doesn't surprise me either. Truthtards just shouldn't try to pretend they're intelligent enough to understand what is going on. :lol: All they do is prove just how incapable they are of both telling the truth and being able to honestly do their own study.

    And it is good you can laugh at you and your fellow truthtards. :lol:
     
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    You should have labeled that calculations on my retarded toy. :lol: How many times do you have to be told your retarded toy does NOT model the towers in any way, shape or form? We know you're proud of it, but it is time for you to face reality and quit playing with toys that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
     
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    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    How many times do you need to be told that the only thing you know how to do is advertise your stupidity?

    That laws of physics work the same way on masses regardless of size. The problem with a small model is the square-cube law.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square-cube_law

    This means that a small model of the SAME MATERIAL is stronger in proportion to its weight than the original. Therefore to attempt to get similar behavior in the physical action of a small model that involves damage a WEAKER MATERIAL must be used. So I used paper and deliberately made it as weak as possible.

    It still does not completely collapse. Not even close. But then the experts won't even discuss needing accurate data on the distributions of steel and concrete in the towers to analyze the problem. Of course after NINE YEARS they would look pretty STUPID bringing it up. They should have said it was necessary NINE YEARS AGO. But every day that goes by it will just look progressively more stupid.

    The United States should be laughed at for the next 1000 years.

    psik
     
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    Perhaps you should take your info to an engineering firm or school outside the US, and see if they agree with your findings. Let us know how that goes.
     
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    psikeyhackr Well-Known Member

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    Considering that gravity works the same way all over the planet it is certainly curious that the TONS of STEEL and TONS of CONCRETE on every level of any skyscraper can't be found anywhere.

    And this is such OLD TECHNOLOGY considering that the Empire State Building will be 80 years old THIS YEAR.

    But skyscrapers are VERY EXPENSIVE. One building goes into hundreds of millions of dollars. Who gets trained to design them and how much goes into just making proposals to construct new ones? How many proposals have been turned down in the last 50 years? But the point is the the physics is still grade school level but EVERYONE is supposed to be impressed.

    Every level still has to support the weight of all of the levels above. So why is everyone supposed to believe a couple could collapse from the tops down without being told the distributions of steel. AND THEN GO TO WAR ABOUT IT!

    This is a GLOBAL educational and psychological problem. We can't have the peons believing physics is easy to understand. That is the reason for the title of the thread.

    psik
     

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