The real crime in Ukraine was the crime against the people

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  1. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    The civilized world wanted Ukraine to clean up the corruption so they could attract global corporations and create better lives for their people. Then this timeline ,,, to include Obama and Biden showering Ukrainians with spittle:

    2002 - Mykola Zlochevsky co-founds Burisma Holdings
    2010/07/02 – 2012/04/20 - Mykola Zlochevsky-served as Minister of Ecology & Natural Resources, reportedly used his position to grant himself leases
    2012/04/02-2014/02/26 - Mykola Zlochevsky-served on National Security & Defense Council

    Early 2014 – Devon Archer joins Burisma

    April 16 – Devon Archer visits VP Biden in the White House

    April 18 – Hunter Biden joins Burisma

    April 21 – VP Biden promises US Aid to Ukraine

    Payments of $50,000 to $166,000 were made to Rosemont – Seneca Holdings, a private equity company owned by Hunter Biden and John Kerry's step son, Christopher Heinz, with managing partner, Devon Archer.
     
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    Would that be similar to those donations to the Clinton Foundation,
    especially associated with acquiring an appointment with the :flagus: Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's actually more direct than Hillary's foundation. The Clintons could only collect consulting and management fees from their foundation. Hunter Biden and his Partner split the principal. Could amount to the same percent of the principal in the end.
     
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    The people of Ukraine suffered a great deal after Obama paid Putin back for his help in the 2012 election. His more flexible buy back allowed Putin to invade and the dems to cash in on the corruption left in the wake of the chaos
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    The UK connection may explain some current events ,,, with Sondland. The UK froze $23M of Mykola Zlochevsky's assets back in 2014. As payback for his stipend for doing nothing as board member of Burisma, Hunter Biden hired a law firm that freed up his benefactor's assets ,,, around January 2015.
     
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    The things conservatives come up with.
     
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    It’s well known fact, caught on mic where Obama asked Russia for help in 2012, because it was his last election and in turn promised to be more flexible if he won. He won, missile defense was canceled, Putin invaded, and Obama did nothing
     
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    And they did this after their time machine enabled them to know the President in 2018 would be Trump and they could pressure the Ukrainian Presient to get caught take a bribe from him. Oh....the perfidy
     
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    Your conspiracy theory aside, the Ukraine has long had a culture of corruption. It is built in to the way the people think. The Ukrainians who migrate to the US are more likely to engage in criminal activity than just about any other ethnic group. That Trump would utilize them in his corruption is just par for the course.
     
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    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Ho hum, let us just pretend Obama did something other than he did, so we don't have to face how utterly corrupt Trump is.
     
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    Who’s pretending? It was famously caught on tape
     
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    No theory. Just facts. The conspiracy theorists are the Russian hoaxters and the Ukraine hoaxters. You're full of Schiff. My grandfather came here from Ukraine. He was the salt of the earth. He wouldn't hurt anyone or try to cheat anyone ,,, not even after the National Socialists killed his mother, father, sister and brother in the Holocaust. That's just one reason why I have no use for you socialists.
     
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