The REAL important points revealed in Impeachment hearings

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I consider it an honor to be ignored by a Liberal. Do it.
     
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    No, you're supposed to say "the walls are closing in."
     
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    I rest my case, folks.
     
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    A Liberal resting his case is a good thing.

    Folks :nana:
     
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    Still proving my point, Dutchie…. Trump loves guys like you...maybe he'll give you a discount to stay at one of his hotels if you toady just right. Adios.
     
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    And guys like me loves Trump. Is that the point you need keep making? Knock yourself out. Adios.
     
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    The MOST important point revealed is Trump's approval rating is skyrocketing! No wonder the dems are ready to drop this impeachment nonsense.
     
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    How can we believe anything the FBI has said about trump after they have been caught in lies left and right. Comey's saying that he had to brief the president (Obama) about trump potentially peeing on russian prostitutes. They knew what they were doing. The russian collusion hoax and now impeachment just a joke. The same people that say trump is guilty say biden is innocent just playing party lines and cant see through their partisan.
     
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    90%+ of all past presidents would have been impeached with the standard we're using today for Trump.

    The train has completely gone off the tracks.
     
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    Here are the major points.

    1. Trump had a low opinion of Ukraine inspite of what his ambassadorial staff said

    Rudy was on the ground in Ukraine and probably shouldn't have been.

    It's likely that no American should have been in Ukraine before this new election.
    Every who was was likely up to no good.
    Not necessarily up to no good, just likely.

    Trump did not accept that Zalinsky was an actual reformer at face value.

    Trump withheld aid for 55 days., not a long time to withold aid from someone you're not sure about, especially when it's your first time giving them offensive deadly weapons.

    Trump feels as though he was treated unfairly in the run up to 2016. Joe Biden being very close to the heart of that bad treatment.

    This whole case depends on Trump's intentions. Was be trying to figure out 2016. Or seeking to influence 2020..


    I see no evidence of the later.
     
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    It's like a three year old broken record, isn't it? Guess we'll have to get used to a President Plugs or Pocahontas.

    /Sarcasm off
     
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    All hearsay, next.

    The voters are enjoying the best economy in 50 years, no help from your party on that.
     
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    Including George Washington, who ignored a House subpoena, and Andrew Jackson, who ignored a SCOTUS ruling.
     
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    And Lincoln, who jailed the Maryland state legislature so they wouldn’t secede.
     
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    I agree that our intelligence and security agencies have a less than stellar record when dealing truthfully with the general public. This is why one has to examine carefully ALL the evidence and facts available. Remember, the FBI got onto Trump during their surveillance of a Russian dignitary making a the rounds in NYC. Now Mueller said there was insufficient evidence to connect Trump to the Russian interference efforts in 2016, BUT there was enough evidence regarding Trump's obstruction and action for Congress to investigate. The hearings produced evidence that the GOP could deny but not logically or factually refute. The "joke" is on the GOP and Trump, because a Senate trial puts Trump officials on the carpet...if McConnell would get off his knees and not let Trump dictate how the Senate proceeds.
     
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    FACT: Giuliani went to two discredited, known corrupt individuals to start a bs campaign regarding the Bidens, then the Ambassador.
    FACT: Trump interrupted the delivery of the missiles, to which Ukrainian officials balked at, as testified by Cooper.
    FACT: Via testimony, it was known that Trump had a requirement before meeting with Zelensky…..corroborated by the phone call transcript.
    Trump's intentions are defined by his actions.
     
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    blame the Orange Oaf.
     
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    First get a dictionary and look up "hearsay", then get a legal dictionary and look up "eye witness" the folk I mentioned gave eye witness testimony that the GOP flunkies could NOT logically or factually disprove...just deny.

    Here's a reality check regarding the economy:

    http://www.differencebetween.net/mi...ence-between-trump-economy-and-obama-economy/
     
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    1. Discredited by who? People who made millions because of corruption?

    2. So what?

    3. So what?

    4. No Trumps actions can very easily be interpreted in 2 possible ways.
     
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    The ONLY fact is that the impeachment started the day Trump won, before he did anything “wrong”. And since that day they lied about Russian collusion. Then they lied about quid pro quo. Then they lied about bribery and pile of other fantasies. Then they wrote up articles that didnt include ANYTHING they accused him of originally. They just kept changing their stories, moving the goal posts, shifting the horrible crimes they kept accusing him of. They instead made up charges that are so vague they can be applied to every president that has ever served....and they don’t have a shred of evidence.

    So fracking sad.

    And the capper? A bunch of leading Democrats said that impeaching a president without bipartisan support is a bad thing. And what did they do? Voted completely partisan without any support at all. They also said it was a sad affair and not to be taken lightly. And what did they do? Clapped when they “won”, hehe.

    so fracking sad
     
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