The Real Problem for Israel

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  1. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    There's an underlying fact related to Israel that most Israeli's and Israeli supporters deny and that many are completely unaware of but the this one fact is why Israel faces inherent conflict and why the United States and the United Nations have maintained the same policies related to Israel since 1949. It creates the problem that unless resolved will result in the violent opposition to Israel forever.

    This simple fact is often included in United Nations Security Council resolutions and it's based upon Article II of the UN Charter that states:

    http://www.un.org/en/sections/un-charter/chapter-i/index.html

    While all of these principles are important the most important of all is #4 that establishes that "threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations" was official prohibited. This established the absolute rejection of the "might makes right" and the "Right of Conquest" doctrines that were historically followed for thousands of years. After several centuries of evolution and the carnage of "colonialism" and the "territorial acquisition by force" of Germany and Japan during World War II the nations of the world had seen enough. Officially, from the moment the United Nations was formed the "Right of Self-Determination" officially replaced the "Right of Conquest" forever.

    Every nation that becomes a member of the United Nations formally agrees that threats and the use of force cannot be used to violate the territory and/or independence of any state or people that fall under the Purposes of the United Nations and all nations, regardless of whether they're members of the United Nations are held to those standards..

    The phrase used repeated by the United Nations Security Council, based upon the "Right of Self-Determination" is that it recognizes "the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force/war."

    UNSC Resolution 2334, the most recent in addressing Israeli-Palestinian issue, states:

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/bre...of-israel-resolution-2334/2016/12/24/0/?print

    UNSC Resolution 242, the first resolution addressing Israeli-Palestinian issue, states:

    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242

    The Security Council has always been consistent and in 1981 when Israel "annexed" the Golan Heights that it has occupied during the 6-Day War in 1967 at the same time it occupied the Palestinian territory the Security Council in Resolution 497 rendered the annexation of the Golan Heights "null and void" again based upon this same principle.

    https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/73D6B4C70D1A92B7852560DF0064F101

    This principle that "the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible" predates the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory and the Golan Heights by Israel 1967.

    In 1950 "The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan" issued a declaration of annexation of the Palestinian territory of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. This territory was under Jordan's occupation based upon the ceasefire line between Israel and Jordan based upon the Israel-Jordan Armistice effective on April 3, 1949. The annexation was never recognized internationally, rendering it null and void, because Jordan could not acquire territory as a result of the Arab-Israeli War of 1948-49.

    Jordan could not claim any territory based upon the territory under occupation in Palestine as a result of the Arab-Israeli War because "the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible" that was effective since 1945 when the UN Charter became effective.

    Wait a second. All of territory of Israel is based upon the same Israel-Jordan Armistice from 1949 and if Jordan's annexation of Palestinian territory was null and void then Israel's annexation of Palestinian territory is also null and void. Effectively Israel is a government of occupation of part of Palestine that it is prohibited from claiming as the "territory of Israel" because it was occupied by an "act of force" and the "the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible."

    There's only one way that Israel can establish a "valid claim" of territory for Israel and that is if the Palestinian Arabs are willing consent to the transfer of that title of land to Israel. We're not talking about the West Bank or East Jerusalem but all of the land that Israel has been in control of since 1949 based upon the Israel-Jordan Armistice.

    Fortunately for Israel the Palestinian Arabs are willing to grant that land to Israel today solving a problem for Israel that's resulted in conflict after conflict with the Arab/Muslim nations and the Palestinians for almost 70 years. All Israel has to do is withdraw from the Palestinian territory, and East Jerusalem, that it occupied in 1967,

    That's one hell of a deal for Israel because it will end up with all of the territory it would have received under UN General Assembly Resolution 181 plus 60% of the land that was supposed to be part of the Arab state of Palestine that it was occupying in 1949 when the Armistice was signed. At the same time Israel doesn't lose anything because it can't acquire any of the territory it occupied in 1967 because of the "the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force" that has been in effect since 1945 under the United Nations Charter.
     
  2. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    The Muslim Palestinian Bedouins want it all.
    They will not stop their terror until all the Israelis will drink water from the Med.. sea
     
  3. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny says, "Dat's right...
    ::grandma:
    ... the real problem for Israel is...
    :confusion:
    ... all dem jihadis dey got...
    :omg:
    ... inna neighborhood around `em.
    :steamed:
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup... definitely a problem considering:

    http://www.grantjeffrey.com/article/rusisrl.htm


     
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    When does Germany get East Prussia back?
     

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