The Real Problem With Health Care In America

And right on schedule the ad hominem. As I’ve done in the past, the last word is yours. Make it something that will paint the socialist in a good light....

 

Ad hom? Too busy laughing for that malarkey. I knew you'd go into this routine when asked for details.

 

What problems would we have with healthcare if adult Persons have recourse to unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed or opt to work for a market based wage that starts at fifteen dollars an hour, minimum.

 

Well it takes a lot of hours at $15 to pay for a heart transplant!

 

anything "deeper than that? insurance is more cost effective with that cost of living adjustment than without it.

 

Typical cost sharing programs are even more cost effective. No sense paying more than you have to.

 

...is the government.

 

in what way? capital must circulate to increase typical market based participation under our form of Capitalism.

 

I guess if you’re a fan of enriching insurance companies cost share isn’t for you.

 

Try four years of fighting endometrial Cancer, this is chump change man! But I whole hardily feel your pain!

 

Just a couple of observations:
Your numbers you posted earlier are the billed rate. They are not what the insurance company paid.
Here is an example to illustrate.




My little love dumpling goes in for a colonoscopy at the end of the month covered by Medicare. If I can remember I'll get a copy of the detailed billing.
If I remember the last one correctly our out of pocket was $250 and the whole bill paid was about $1000. Interestingly my neighbor had one the same week under his GM insurance. I can't remember his out of pocket (pretty low I think) but his paid amount was $5000.

If there was Medicare for all care givers that didn't take Medicare would be out of business. That is the leverage that is needed to control costs.
The ACA is still private insurance.

 

insurance is a capital risk mitigation concept.

 

It certainly is. And using it for healthcare the way we have has driven costs way out of proportion. You don’t insure things you can afford to buy/replace. Ever.

 

So you are posting proof that the current system doesn't work as proof that "Medicare for All" won't work. Does that in any way make sense?

 

Just as a side note the billed rate is what a person without insurance is required to pay.

 

solving simple poverty can increase market based participation in a capital friendly manner.

 

equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed; can enable more market friendly public policies.

 

If we’d have simply gifted all the money we spent on the war on poverty to poor people they’d be wealthy.

 

Sometimes.

 

Actually all the time. You can negotiate and reduce it somewhat but not to the rate insurance companies pay. Or you can refuse to pay and see what happens.

 

Capitalism has a natural rate of failure; it is why we have socialism.

 

I’ve actually got it under insurance rates by paying cash. It saves them a bundle and were happy to do it.

 

Many hospitals offer a self-pay discount. The hospitals I work for offer a 25% discount if paid within 60 days.

 

Socialism never fails. That’s why all you guys lead by example and participate voluntarily. Everybody loves it but nobody actually does it. Very interesting.

 

I bet you don't see to many happy open heart surgery patients leaving your hospital. Oh boy oh boy only $250,000.