The Reason China Will Beat America

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  1. AFM

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    Full employment ?? That's hilarious. Where do you get this crap ??
     
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    Economists.
    Ever hear of them?

    I get tRUMP supporters only listen to BABY DONALD, but, there is a whole world out there.
     
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    LFPR. Ever heard of that ???

    Name one economist who claims we are at full employment.
     
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    The U.S. economy is back at full employment after more than a decade, according to a leading economist.

    Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, said the 4.4 percent unemployment rate is good news for workers’ wages while acknowledging that labor shortages will make it more difficult for businesses to find qualified employees.
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/333048-us-economy-at-full-employment-economist-sayshttps://thehill.com/policy/finance/333048-us-economy-at-full-employment-economist-says

    From over a year ago, with UE at 4.4% vs today's 3.6%.
     
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    Rather than embracing change and adapting to it the righties just want someone to blame for it.
    The problem is that doesn't make it better.

    I found these two videos interesting.



    I'm sure there must be a way to blame the Chinese for this, I just haven't figured it out yet.
    Truck drivers are next.
     
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    3.6% unemployment is considered full employment by virtually every economist.
     
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    China is a country with much newer infrastructure than we have here in the USA.Much of modern China has been built in the last 50 years and is much newer and more modern than the USA.Their buildings are largely steel framed and built of man made less flammable materials than our wood structures.We have never had a modern war fought on our shores using just plain old incindiary bombs,our wooden buildings would be pne huge bonfire,cities would be reduced to piles of ashes.Just look at what happened in the California wild fires
     
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    Where did this crock come from ???
     
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    It penalizes all Americans. It's a TAX and it's the largest tax Trump has put on us.

    There are MANY other and MUCH more effective ways to stop the theft of Intellectual Property than tariffs. Tariffs are a protection for Trump's cronies who want to make shoddy goods just like the Wall is a reward for his contractor buddies. Blatant corruption is a centerpiece of Trump's administration, built right into his whole style of governance
     
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    Don't worry - China is now a nation of innovators and it is they who will be asking for strong international IP law .. and the US that will be trying to steal their technology.

    Pining over the past is futile - what is done is done. What is left that the Chinese - and others - have not already stolen. When the genie gets out of the bottle - it is out.

    Look at what happened with nuclear proliferation - you can than France and the US for this. What the messed up thinking with respect to Israel being allowed to have nukes - is beyond me. Then you had some Pakistani Scientist with access to nuclear secrets in the French nuclear program - next thing you know - Pakistan is testing the bomb. The dude then goes around and sells these secrets to North Korea, Iran and Iraq.

    And that is "nuclear weapons". If you are talking some nifty process for making silicon chips - or other innovations - that is a done deal - its out there. Anyone who thinks you can build a factory in another nation - and not have that nation learn the technology - is an a naive fool.

    This time has passed - The Chinese have learned everything already. China will be happy to accept - and even eager - strengthening of international IP protection. The idea that this will apply backwards in any significant way is silliness - its simply not going to happen. China is not going to close some factory that has been using technology that it learned from the US and others - that has been operating for years if not decades. There is a limit to how long IP can be protected in any case .. and China was never a signatory to those limits. This IP protection will apply to future IP - not past.

    As such - much of the rhetoric surrounding IP is Political games for domestic consumption.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Liberals?
    You already admitted the R's which you support and did support back in the 80s and 90s are responsible for jobs going over seas.

    Why would anyone want to trust them today? Since you now are claiming we are getting taken advantage of. Due to the policies you and R's supported.
    No thanks, R's wrecked and continue to wreck America.
    Free trades you now don't like.
    The biggest recession this side of the great depression.
    How much more damage does Rs want to inflict upon the USA people?
     
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    It’s a negotiation tactic. Why do progressives fail to understand this ?? Why was the 5% Mexican tariff not enacted ??

    What are the other more effective ways to stop the theft of IP and reduce/eliminate Chinese tariffs and trade restrictions ???
     
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    Yes, Jobs was certainly symptomatic of the narcissistic, self-absorption and cult of consumerism, celebrity and wealth that is slowly destroying the American Empire. Too bad. By all accounts a genius but that does not make one a worthwhile or admirable human being.

    How sad for you. There is nothing sacred about "mine." Power structures can change and those whose cup is full can become empty very quickly in conditions of war, famine, revolution or rebellion. You should hope upon hope that this does not happen to you because then you would learn very quickly how dependent you are on a stable social structure that allows your privilege and sense of entitlement.

    While it would probably be good for you to learn humility and humanity through crisis, the bitterness and hatred you hold against your fellow man would probably not allow you to survive.
     
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    The only TDS is people who can't see Trump for the narcissistic, barely coherent, criminal buffoon that he is.

    Right-wingers have to make stuff up like TDS to blind themselves from the truth.
     
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    There they go again. Have you ordered your orange baby balloon ??
     
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    Thanks for the laughs.
     
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    Why bother even posting if this is all you got?
     
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    Tourette's or just nervous laughter when some truth enters your bubble.........?
     
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    Why do you post meaningless gibberish ??
     
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    The truth ??? Trump’s a narcissistic racist is the truth ???
     
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    Why do you answer when you have nothing to say?
    Well, yeah, but that is not what I said.
     
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    If you mean my life depends upon the creative being free to create the things that make life wondrously marvelous, yup, I m guilty, and loving it

    Nothing sacred about one’s own life...that’s not sad, it’s tragic.
     
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    Pointing out that meaningless gibberish in three paragraphs is meaningless in the real world.

    That’s the standard progressive line along with the Russians and all of the identity politics bs.
     

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