The Reason China Will Beat America

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    But, but, Apple is an American company not a Chinese company. You want the government to control US companies.
    Socialist.
     
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    Wow you don't even try to hide your sexism. Just like the prez. And many on the RW.
     
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    Quit lying. Its against the rules. I have never ever ssid i am against bringing jobs back. Ut doing the usual RW thing and killing the economy isn't going to bring jobs back.
    Getting in front of the future will do that. You want to return to the 1950s.
     
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    That sloppy logic may work on a liberal not me

    Tariffs protect any company that wants to manufacture in the USA

    Protect the company and American workers from lo-ball foreign competition
     
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    The welfare of American citizens « trumps » your lib pc
     
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    Because we elect village idiots like Dirty Donald!!!
     
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    Okay, but China is rapidly employing the same kind of automation that is coming here. It is a global phenomenon. China only uses humans at the moment because they work cheaply in those countries.

    And let's not forget it is often American corporations moving their factories and plants to places like China, Mexico and Bangladesh in order to drive wages,benefits and pollution standards as low as they possibly can to maximize profit.

    So it is your own corporations driving trade imbalances which you then blame foreign countries for.
     
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    Piss poor excuse for sexism.
     
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    Obama strangled the economy

    Trump has given the economy a boost

    The mire jobs we drive out of china the better we will be
     
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    Obama didn't strangle the economy. You can argue the methods but he did stabilize the banking system with bailouts and by his second term the economy was on the same trajectory it is now.

    I hated the bailouts as the massive corporate welfare scam that it was. But arguing that Obama strangled the economy is just ridiculous.

    He ruled from the right economically and kept the ship afloat after Clinton and Bush did their best to run it onto the rocks.
    This is just more of the everything Obama did was bad and must be undone narrative.

    I wonder what that is all about?
     
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    That doesn't seem to bother @Mac-7 . He would sacrifice half of Apple's profits to bring some minimum wage jobs to the US.
    Of course he doesn't think far enough ahead to realize without those profits R&D would have to be cut, so in a few years Apple would be out of business. Replaced by Samsung. :)
     
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    So you must be really angry that once again Trump has back tracked on those increased tariffs on Chinese imports. And he has also back tracked on Huawei - suddenly they are no longer a security threat! So much winning and jobs coming back, not! LOL
     
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    Yes strangled. LOL. Dumb response. We were in the greatest recession this country has ever seen when his term began.
    And today we are in the economy he gave the country.

    ODS to this day. While u enjoy the economy he created.
     
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    gain, if Americans are buying consumer products made by robots I want those to be American robots work here instead of china

    Your last line suggests you are a foreigner

    Where are you posting from?
     
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    If patriotism is sexist then I am happy to be a sexist
     
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    Your doomsday prediction does not impress me

    Applle can manufacture in America without going bankrupt

    And so can Samsung
     
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    I am not “really angry”

    Because I think he’s doing as much as conditions allow

    And far more than any previous or future president
     
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    It's pretty clear you don't understand competition in big business.
    This not only makes you a socialist, but a socialist snowflake.
    Are you going to put tariffs on all cell phones or just Apple's because they are made in China.
     
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    Ok

    I’m not bothered by cheap personal insults cause I’ve called everything bad the liberals can think of

    To answer your question the tariff applies to all products imported from countries that do not meet USA standards for wages, worker safety, and enviromental régulations

    The last requirement may not appeal to libs who dont seem to mind pollution associated with their consumer goods as long as its not in their backyards
     
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    Obama (and bush) did little to end the recession

    They just tried to make it less painful for selected groups of Americans

    And thanks to the clinton jobs export initive there was little manufacturing base to drive the recovery
     
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    I thought that would be your stance. Full isolation.
    This of course won't work because every other country would cut us off. Of course this is a hypothetical because it will never happen. So I stick by my comment.
     
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    Its not full isolation unless other nations insist on not buying from us as well as selling
     
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    So how does your plan work when everyone in the US starts buying Samsung because it is 25% cheaper and everyone in China stops buying Apple because it's 50% more expensive than Samsung?
     
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    Why would Samsung be cheaper than Apple when both pay the same tariff?
     
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    Samsung is made in Korea. The US does not make cell phones.
     

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