The Reason China Will Beat America

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  1. Mac-7

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    Again, the chinese are catching up to the west

    Why waste money reinventing technology when they can just steal it?

    But eventually they will be so rich thanks to stupid trade policies of ours they can afford to do basic research

    Which they will not share with us
     
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    India will surpass both China and the USA within 50 years because they still have a growing populations while both us and the Chinese have aging declining populations.We need immigrants desperately but our current administration is too stupid to realize it.
     
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    There is some truth to that

    But the communist psrty is firlmy in control of every square inch of mainland china and that if nothing else is a unifying force
     
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    They do study hard and the best students get every considerstion

    They take education very seriously as do japanese and s koreans
     
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    That is only part of it - you are omitting one of the major reasons - That international corporations are allowed so siphon money out of the US through tax loopholes. In other words - even if all other costs where the same - Say a shoe made for 20 dollars (all in) and sold for 100 = 80 dollars profit. The US manufacturer pays tax on 80 dollars whereas the US company making the shoe somewhere else only pays tax on a small fraction of that amount.

    I have explained how this is done to you previously.
     
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    Did you notice that seven of the eight kids who tied in our Scripps spelling bee were of Indian heritage???Usually they are finalists or winners every year.
     
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    Its actually more like 35 years later as this started under Reagan but, point taken. Losing our manufacturing base was the result of "Reaganomics" - and now Carrot top wants to double down on Reaganomics - while at the same time claiming to be bringing jobs back.
     
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    They study harder
     
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    Losing our manufacturing base had many reasons all related to globalism

    Liberals for instance are CO2 prudes who wanted the emmissions to be in china even though they were the end user

    Plus I think the left thought we didnt need those crummy little blue collar jobs anymore

    Americans would just hav3 to sit behind a desk while other countries did all the work

    But the lib education system failed to deliver and millions of Americans are suffering as a result
     
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    Actually you are right .. that is part of the problem as well - we like to outsource our pollution to other nations - especially people like Cortez - even though her new green deal states that this is not to be done - yet she tries to block the Keystone which does exactly that - not building the Keystone will change US fuel consumption by one drop which means we need to get the oil from somewhere else - as in high polluting nations such as Nigeria.

    The second issue was our insane Enviro Regulations. This is a bureaucratic nightmare - and exercise in pyramid building. There was no such thing as a dumb regulation to these people - the more the merrier - creating more work - and thus requiring more hiring - and more managers. Its a nasty cycle of nepotism. I am speaking from experience here having worked in the sector (cleaning up hydrocarbon contaminated sites) for over a decade.

    Its not like we need no enviro regulations - but the EPA turned into a clown show and there was no oversight.
     
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    See if you can spot the trend in this:
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/23/the-10-most-and-least-educated-states-in-2018.html
    Then tell us about those liberal school systems.
     
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    Every public school system in America is run by liberals whether they be teachers or administrators

    Its the nature of the beast since the universities that train and award diplomas to educators are insufferably liberal and intolerant of non liberal ideas

    Talk about inbred

    The liberal education sysyem is far worse than the mountain people in Appalachia
     
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    :roflol:
    Must be your RW legislators that make that happen. If I were you I'd get me some Libs. They manage to make it work.
     
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    LOL, you mean like California that has Louisiana to thank for not being at the bottom in education?
     
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    Liberals cant take responsibilty for their own screwups

    The left made the education system the dismal failure it is today
     
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    And that's why the blue states have better educated people.
    Yeah, I got it. Rightie logic. :nerd:
     
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    "Forced"? Don't be ridiculous.
     
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    Don't buy into all that "stability" and "unity" stuff. Stability only maintained by fear has a shelf-life.
     
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    That's an outdated stereotype.
     
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    India's growing population will be largely a growing demographic that is terribly poor. Just larger numbers doesn't mean advantage any more than just falling numbers does.
     
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    Yes forced

    Faced with a flood of cheap imported products competing with their own

    US companies were FORCED to fire their Anerican workforce or go out of business
     
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    It wasn't China that made Apple make cheap iPhones in China - It was Apple.
     
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    Not so. America has lost it's manufacturing base because of the American consumers constant mantra of "It must be cheap", and the only way the manufacturers could make it cheaper was to have it made overseas.
    Go to Walmart and find me a coffee maker or toaster that's actually made in the USA.
     
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    India which has a low current base has a GDP growth rate over 7 like China had as it began it's growth spurt in the 1970's.
     
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    Nonsense. Hyperbolic nonsense.
     

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