"The reason why Germany invaded Poland was ..... <<MOD WARNING>>

Well, I don't think Dunkirk was actually decisive as it took 4 years for the British to return on the shores of France and their airforce was still intact.
(the same British which Hitler let live btw. Which was an extremely low and dishonorable trick to pull by the UK)

What imo has been decisive was Hitler sending panzer divisions from army group Center (heading for Moscow) to support army group North (Leningrad) and army group South (Eastern Ukraine).



This left the German generals Guderian and Hoth appalled as they wanted to rush for Moscow which was only another 200 km drive, however Hitler's reasoning was to "inflict severe economic damage on the Soviet-Union" by cutting off oil in the south and taking Leningrad in the North.

That didn't work out and eventually Hitler ordered the panzers to join army group Center again, which delayed Operation Typhoon with a couple of weeks. So when they were surrounding Moscow, winter set in...

Keep in mind, Hitler actually had some very good military ideas, but yes, he still basically was a corporal and should have trusted his generals a bit more.

 

Then why wasn't he cited on the website.
I have looked at his website and I have to say he doesn't have any credibility as his books are conspiratorial in nature and he doesn't have any professional experience.
He is not credible as an author

How exactly does this relate to my comment?

So what? Proves nothing.

And?
I would also love to see a copy of that book considering that Mitgang isn't the official biographer.

No. This is not a valid source by any stretch of the imagination

Really? So in the eight months of this mass assembly they decided to move so late.

It doesn't matter what I think about it. Where is the reason? Otherwise all you have is an assumption.

 

It was not easy 4 years.
It was 4 years for Russian troops to destroy the power of the Wehrmacht. .
.... As a result, the British were able to return "on the shores of France and their airforce was still intact."

 

Sorry my friend, but the Russian troops would have lost the war bigtime if the US did not support them with the "Lend-Lease Act", sending them massive amounts of weapons, ammo, vehicles, spare parts, field-radios, food, oil etc. etc.







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Sorry my friend, but the Russian troops would have lost the war bigtime if the US did not support them with the "Lend-Lease Act", sending them massive amounts of weapons, ammo, vehicles, spare parts, field-radios, food, oil etc. etc.

 

Looks like I can send you anything you want, but you would sweep it all aside anyway without doing any serious research into the matter yourself.

Poland was nothing more than a puppet on strings of the UK, France + Zionist powers.

Deal with it.

 

Prove it!

 

MEET THE MAN WHO STARTED WORLD WAR II



As regular readers well know by now, the ultimate culprits behind the disaster of World War II were the high-level masters of the New World Order crime gang (Rothschild, Rockefeller, Sulzberger, Baruch et al), and their skilled operational henchmen of the political world (FDR, Churchill, Daladier, Stalin et al). By the way, this is the same self-perpetuating crime syndicate now agitating for confrontation against Syria, Iran and ultimately Russia and China. Same game; new players, long story.

But the one thing this dirty gang could never have accomplished by themselves was to trigger the actual war. As even the most geographically illiterate Boobus Americanus or Boobus Europithicus should know, neither the US, nor the USSR, and nor the UK shared a common border from which to make mayhem against Hitler's Germany.

France does share a border with Germany, but when Hitler permanently renounced any claims to the disputed Alsace-Lorraine region in 1935, a possible flash-point between the two rivals was diffused forever.

Another potential trigger was diffused in 1938 when the Munich Agreement - since dubbed by propagandists and ignoramus parrots alike as "Neville Chamberlain's appeasement" - fairly settled the German-Czech dispute to the mutual benefit of Czechs, Slovaks and Germans.

Nor was Germany bound to any dangerous entangling alliances, as it had been prior to World War I when the Reich was committed to fight alongside Austria-Hungary after the Russians and French began mobilizing against that nation.


Hitler's skillful and honest diplomacy resolved the Alsace-Lorraine dispute to France's favor, and the Sudetenland problem to the benefit of all parties. Left: with UK's Neville Chamberlain, Right: with Daladier of France

Unfortunately,neither Daladier nor Chamberlain would be strong enough to hold back the continued pressure from the warmongering factions around and above them.

In November of 1938, the U.S. mid-term Congressional elections dealt a crushing blow to Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Democrat Party. With America still reeling from the decade-long Great Depression, absent some foreign "crisis", it appeared that the failed two-term President would not be able to seek a third term (He ultimately held office until his death in 1945). It should be noted that at this hard time in American history, prosperous Germany was enjoying full employment, a strong currency, the Autobahn, the Volkswagen, and a happy reconciliation between labor and the entrepreneurial class. But I digress.

Even the claims of Jewish persecution in Germany were no longer valid. Though the dominant Jewish elite had in large measure been stripped of high positions in finance, press, government, law and academia, the truth was, the 330,000 Jews who remained in Hitler's Germany were unmolested and actually quite prosperous. Indeed, after anti-Jewish riots broke out following the 1938 Paris murder of a German diplomat by a deranged Polish Jew, it was Hitler himself who, via Goebbels, immediately issued an Emergency Order for the anti-Jewish violence (since exaggerated in scope) to cease.

And so, by 1939, the New World Order crime syndicate and the British & French chauvinists had nearly run out of all options and all propaganda pretexts for instigating another war against peaceful and prosperous Germany, as they had done in 1914. The last hopes for starting the war to re-enslave Germany rested on the shoulders of one man, and one man only. His name was Edward Smigly-Rydz; the criminal fool who started World War II. As is to be expected, his name is virtually unknown outside of Poland. It's high-time this dirty, rotten, ego-maniacal scoundrel gets the posthumous "credit" he so richly deserves.



After Germany was essentially tricked into laying down her arms and surrendering during World War I, its west Prussian territory was carved out, given to the new state of Poland, and, for the most part, "ethnically cleansed" of Germans. The German port city of Danzig was declared a "free city" and forbidden from rejoining Germany. East Prussia remained part of Germany but was left isolated from the mainland. This illogical and immoral configuration, and the anti-German abuses which were to take place within the "Polish Corridor", would serve as the perfect trip-wire for setting off a new war against Germany.


A Tale of Two Marshals

Born and known as Edward Rydz, the young army commander served in the Polish legions of Austro-Hungarian Empire during World War I. He later became one of the leaders of a Polish independence movement that sought to establish a Polish state carved from the Polish majority areas of Austria-Hungary and Russia. Smigly, by appointment of Marshal Jozef Pilsudski, became commander of the Polish Military Organization and adopted the 'nom de guerre' of "Smigly" (Fast or Agile). He later added 'Smigly' as an integral part to his surname, which tells us something about his ego. His self-promoting renaming is similar to that of Loseb Jugashvili, who later took the name "Stalin" - Man of Steel.


Pilsudski (l) and Smigly-Rydz fought for Polish statehood.

As a Brigadier, Smigly commanded armies during the Polish-Soviet War which followed World War I. The treaty which ended that war, the Peace of Riga, divided the disputed territories between the relatively new state of Poland and the new Soviet Union (fka Russian Empire).

Marshal Pilsudski would go on to become Poland's head of State until his death in 1935. It is important to note that Hitler and Pilsudski were on good terms. Pilsudski had actually congratulated Hitler on winning the 1933 elections, and the German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact was signed just 10 months after Hitler came to power. According to the Pact, both countries pledged to resolve their problems through bilateral negotiations and to forgo armed conflict.

Just before his death, Pilsudski re-emphasized that Poland should maintain neutral relations with Germany. The death of Pilsudki proved to be a great loss for Germany - a fact which Hitler himself expressed during the closing days of World War II.


1- Hitler attends a Berlin Memorial Service held in honor of Pilsudski, whom he respected greatly.

2- Pilsudski and his Foreign Minister Beck (left) make peace with German Minister for Propaganda & Public Enlightenment, Joseph Goebbels, and German Ambassador to Poland, von Moltke.

 

A Dictatorship Without a Dictator

Following Pilsudski's death, Smigly-Rydz became General Inspector of the Armed Forces. From that point on, Smigly was rapidly elevated. In 1936, he was awarded the title of "Second Man in the State after the President", by the Polish prime minister. Later that year, he was promoted to the rank of Marshal of Poland. Smigly's carefully crafted image as Pilsudski's anointed successor alienated many of Pilsudski's supporters, who saw him as a shameless self-promoter.



The period of Smigly's rule, 1935–39, was often referred to as "a dictatorship without a dictator". But he lacked the moral authority of the beloved Pilsudski and many Poles were divided over their new de-facto dictator; with more than a few hating him outright. The Smigly regime became increasingly authoritarian. This was illustrated by the creation of the Ozon movement, whose objective was to build a popular mass movement that would transform the tin-pot dictator into "Poland's second great leader" (after Pilsudski himself). Several of Poland's senior politicians made a point of distancing themselves from this phony "grass-roots" cult movement.


Smigly-Rydz: always decorated like a Christmas tree and talking big.

In addition to being authoritarian, and not all that popular among his own people, the pompous Marshal had grandiose delusions of restoring the old Polish Empire of 1569-1795, in territories which had long since been devoid of Polish inhabitants (Baltic States, Ukraine, Belarus, Czechoslovakia and Prussian Germany). To that end, Smigly's gang embarked on a campaign of aggressive intimidation and forced annexation.


Dreams of restoring Poland's long gone Empire danced in 'Emperor' Smigly's mind


Smigly-Rydz Strong-Arms Lithuania & Czechoslovakia


In March of 1938, Smigly issued an ultimatum to the tiny Baltic State of Lithuania. Lithuania had refused to have any diplomatic relations with Poland after 1920, protesting the annexation of the Vilnius Region by the new Polish state. The ultimatum demanded that Lithuania unconditionally agree to establish diplomatic ties with Poland within 48 hours, and that the terms be finalized within two weeks. The establishment of diplomatic relations would mean a renunciation of Lithuanian claims to the region containing its historic capital, Vilnius.

Tiny Lithuania, preferring peace to war, accepted bully-boy Smigly's ultimatum and conditions. Had Lithuania stood firm, it's quite possible that Stalin would have used the ensuing war as pretext to take the Baltic States (which he eventually did in 1940) and start the 2nd Polish-Soviet war. Such was the recklessness of Marshal Smigly.

Many in the "democratic" West, including, ironically, the anti-German New York Times, expressed dismay over Poland's militaristic bullying of Lithuania; a development so dangerous that it caused jitters among Wall Street investors. (here) But in the end, it was generally understood that Poland would be needed for bigger things, so the West "held its nose" and tolerated Smigly's antics.


Later that same year, Smigly made a similar bold move against the Czech government when he took advantage of the Sudetenland Crisis to demand a portion of Zaolzie and some other smaller areas. The Czechs were powerless to stop the forced annexations. Again, the "democratic" West shook its head in dismay, but held its tongue.


1- Lithuania and Czechoslovakia were both strong-armed by 'Emperor' Smigly.
2- Uninvited, Polish tanks roll into annexed Zaolzie. A few Polish flags are visible, but the people don't seem too excited.

 

Smigly the Tyrant Eyes Danzig

In addition to the expansionist foreign policy, the Polish military junta was infamous for suppressing ethnic minorities living within its new borders. Indeed, during the 20-year history of the League of Nations, literally hundreds of formal complaints were submitted by German and other ethnic minorities trapped in the stolen lands now controlled by ultra-Nationalist Poland.


Smigly was not content with the possession and ethnic cleansing of stolen western Prussia. He also wanted control over the beautiful "free city" of German Danzig (today known as Gdansk, Poland) and eventually all of eastern Prussia too.

In 1939, supported from 'behind the scenes' by elements in the UK, France, and the US (yes, Roosevelt was deeply involved!), Smigly-Rydz was encouraged to ignore Hitler's sincere and generous proposals for resolving the bizarre and hated partition of Prussia that had caused tension ever since the end of World War I. At one point, Hitler had even agreed to give up claims to western Prussia in exchange for the return of Danzig and a 1-mile wide highway - railway passage linking Germany to eastern Prussia.

Underestimating Germany's resolve, overestimating Poland's power, and foolishly trusting in the western intriguers who were manipulating his bloated imperialistic ego, Smigly ignored Hitler's offers and ratcheted up the abuse of Germans trapped in western Prussia and Danzig. The suffering of the Prussian Germans is not "Nazi propaganda". It is historical fact which the West's "court historians" have purposely edited out of their Orwellian history books.


Believing that the western powers were truly behind him, the cowardly Smigly 'stood down' and allowed predominantly Jewish-Bolshevik terror gangs to attack innocent Germans; both within "Prussian Poland" and inside of German border towns as well. These gangs of Red "partisans", as well as other Polish ultra-nationalists, had been salivating at the prospect of triggering a Western "holy war" against Germany ever since 1933.



The torture-mutilation-massacre at Bromberg occurred just 2 days after the liberating Germans arrived in western Prussia. The brutality of the mass killing gives an indication of the type of abuse that innocent Germans, trapped in Poland, had been suffering while Smigly "looked the other way".

Again, Smigly coveted the "free city" of Danzig (98% German) and wished to eventually annex all of eastern Prussia. Step by step Smigly plotted the restoration of an empire that was long gone, an Empire which even his own people didn't want. A man blinded by such ambition was easy pickings for the British - those undisputed historical masters of foreign intrigue - and also for the cunning Roosevelt and the Jewish operatives that surrounded him.

By August of 1939, Germany had exhausted all efforts to reason with Smigly's gang. The British and French urged Smigly to allow the Soviet Army to march westward, in the event that war should break out with Germany. Smigly refused, stating that: "there is no guarantee that the Soviets will really take active part in the war; furthermore, once having entered Polish territory, they will never leave it".


Smigly-Rydz Forces Hitler's Hand

On September 1, 1939, after all German attempts to reason with Poland, France and Britain had failed, and after the Polish military, at the urging of Britain, went on full mobilization, the Germans invaded Poland and liberated Danzig. On September 7, along with most of the government, Smigly ran from Warsaw as it came under attack. The immediate counter-attack promised by Poland's French and British "allies" never materialized.

Unbeknownst to the blinded idiot Smigly, the Allies had no such plans and fully expected not only the fall of Poland, but the entry of Stalin's hordes. The Allies only interest was to have an excuse to declare war upon Germany, and then wait for Stalin to attack Germany from the east, necessarily having to pass through Poland. Stalin was indeed ready to pounce on a distracted Poland, but his move against Germany was to be on his time-table, not that of the Allies.

The Allies continued to ignore Hitler's impassioned pleas for peace and would spend the next eight months plotting Scandinavian-based maneuvers and deploying a massive mechanized fighting force in northern France, in anticipation of invading Germany via Belgium and Holland, sometime in the spring of 1940.

The rest, as they say, is history.


Once Smigly-Rydz had given Britain and France the phony pretext needed to declare war against Germany, he was given his 15 minutes of fame and then "thrown under the bus".

 

The Allies Abandon Smigly; Stalin Finishes Poland

Smigly's ego-maniacal pipe-dream of a new Polish Empire was further crippled when the opportunistic Stalin attacked Poland from the east on September 17th; an invasion which Britain & France, in spite of their "defense guarantees" to Poland, said nothing about! Having picked a fight with one superpower, Germany; and thus exposing Poland to invasion from another, the Soviet Union; Smigly-Rydz sealed his county's doom. His criminal stupidity enabled the brutal butchers of the Soviet NKVD to round up and execute 10,000 of his Polish Army officers at Katyn Forest.


Had Smigly followed the late Marshal Pilsudski's advice and remained on friendly terms with Germany, the Soviet invasion and the Katyn Forest massacre of his officer corps would never have happened.

Rather than choosing an honorable punishment for the disastrous folly which he drove Poland into - such as suicide or at least surrendering to the humane Germans - the coward Smigly fled to Romania. Like a true narcissist egomaniac, he deflected any and all blame for the disaster that he and he alone engineered, later stating from his Romanian hideout:

"Cost of construction of modest fortifications along our western border was equivalent to 18-month budget of Poland, and at the same time, we were working on fortifications in the East. A modest armament plan was up to 5 billion zlotys. What was I supposed to do? I am not an economist.

We began partial mobilization in the spring 1939. The nation hated it, more than 1000 Silesians deserted to Germany. We were unable to keep Poland mobilized for so long, we could not afford it."

Pathetic! Smigly admitted that Poland was ill-equipped for war; that the nation itself did not want war; that the Soviets posed a threat from the East; and that Poland could not afford the cost of war. And yet, he purposely pissed in Hitler's face and eagerly rushed head-long into war anyway!

In defense of the accusation of cowardice in regard to his flight, Smigly issued more prideful excuses:

"They say that I am a coward. I had three options: to surrender, to kill myself, and to be captured. It was impossible to fight, as I had only half a company of soldiers with me. To kill myself meant failure."



"To kill myself meant failure", eh Smigly? That would be like the captain of the Titanic abandoning the ship that he helped to carelessly destroy, sneaking onto one of the limited lifeboats, and later declaring, "To have stayed on the ship would have meant failure." As it went, Captain Smith stayed on the Titanic and shot himself as the ship went down.

In light of what Smigly's folly enabled the Soviet butchers to do to his officers at Katyn Forest, the pain of remorse alone should have driven him to suicide; but that's assuming Smigly was any kind of a decent or honorable man. Clearly, he was not. Smigly-Rydz would return to Poland in 1941 to work with the Polish underground. He was said to have died of "heart failure" just a few weeks later; or did some of his fellow Poles repay him for his folly and cowardice?


Hitler Exposes Smigly

During his speech to liberated Danzig in 1939, Hitler addressed Smigly's folly:

"No power on earth would have borne this condition as long as Germany. I do not know what England would have said about a similar peace solution (Versailles) at its expense or how America or France would have accepted it. I attempted to find a solution - a tolerable solution - even for this problem. I submitted this attempt to the Polish rulers in the form of verbal proposals. You know these proposals. They were more than moderate.

I do not know what mental condition the Polish Government was in when it refused these proposals."

In that same speech, Hitler goes on to speak of Smigly's cowardice:

"The Polish Marshal (Smigly), who miserably deserted his armies, said that he would hack the German Army to pieces."

And of his cruelty:

"And martyrdom began for our German nationals. Tens of thousands were dragged off, mistreated, and murdered in the vilest fashion. Sadistic beasts gave vent to their perverse instincts, and this pious democratic world watched without blinking an eye."

And of Smigly's willful blindness:

"I have often asked myself: Who can have so blinded Poland? Does anyone really believe that the German nation will permanently stand that from such a ridiculous State? Does anyone seriously believe that?"

The highly decorated and twice-wounded war hero Hitler had this slippery, sleazy, sniveling, self-promoting Smigly clown all figured out!


1- Hitler struts through the streets of Danzig while Smigly hides in Romania.
2- The joyous crowds of Danzig greet their liberator.

It wasn't merely the fact that Marshal Smigly-Rydz was a tyrannical, imperialist, warmongering weasel that should have made his name infamous. Compounding all of these vices was his abject stupidity. All "Polish jokes" aside, did Smiggy actually believe that Poland could defeat Germany? Really? Evidently so.

Did the Smigster not suspect, that with his hands full fighting Germany, the bestial Stalin might capitalize on the situation and invade from the east? Evidently not.

Did His Royal Smigness not suspect that his British, French, and America "allies" were just using Poland to pick a fight with Germany, only to throw her out like a used-up lemon rind afterwards? Was Smigly not aware of how the Allies seduced the Russian Tsar to fight with them during World War I, only to refuse him asylum when he was overthrown? The Bolsheviks then captured and murdered the Tsar and his entire family.

Was Smigly not aware of how the British, during World War I, encouraged the Arabs to rise up against the Ottoman Turkish Empire, only to renege on promises made to them and then steal Palestine as well?

Ironically, what Smigly-Rydz was not able to see was, again, very clear to Hitler. In that same Danzig speech, Hitler spoke about how Poland had been played for chumps:

"For these men (British warmongers) Poland, too, was only a means to an end. Because today it is being declared quite calmly that Poland was not the primary thing, but that the German regime is. I always warned against these men. I pointed out the danger that in a certain country such men could rise and unmolested preach the necessity of war - Herren Churchill, Eden, Duff-Cooper, etc.

The circumstances surrounding the outbreak of this unnecessary war haunted Hitler until his dying day. Hours before his suicide, Hitler dictated his final political testament; in which he stated:



"It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted the war in 1939. It was desired and instigated exclusively by those international statesmen who were either of Jewish descent or worked for Jewish interests.

Three days before the outbreak of the German-Polish war I again proposed to the British ambassador in Berlin a solution to the German-Polish problem—similar to that in the case of the Saar district, under international control. This offer also cannot be denied. It was only rejected because the leading circles in English politics wanted the war, partly on account of the business hoped for and partly under influence of propaganda organized by international Jewry."


The modern "educated" mind, so twisted by 75 years of false propaganda, may find it difficult, if not impossible, to even begin to process such a claim. And yet, an objective analysis of the events of 1939 leads us to the inescapable conclusion that the man was telling the truth!


Hitler saw how the Allies were playing Smigly-Rydz for a chump; and spoke publicly about it months before the war had even started. Wasn't Smigly listening?

 

(continued from previous page)


Will History Repeat?

Smigly's imperial folly, criminal negligence, and astonishing stupidity not only doomed Poland, but the world as well. That's what happens when a man is blinded by his ego and his ambitions.

Given these true facts about the horrible historical record of Marshal Smigly-Rydz, one would think that, in spite of the conventional misunderstanding of World War II, the Poles would universally hold his memory in contempt. But that is not the case. Marshal Edward Smigly-Rydz Park is a large tree-covered public park in Warsaw that honors the memory of the man who not only started World War II at the behest of his western manipulators, but doomed his nation to Soviet conquest, mass killings, and nearly 50 years of Communism.


Honoring Smigly? Really? Come on Poland! Are you flippin' serious?

One would also think that Poland learned a valuable historical lesson about 'messin' with super-powers. And yet, the current Polish government, much to the dismay of more than a few Poles, is taking the lead in provoking Putin's Russia on behalf of its EU and US handlers!

How does the old adage go? "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it&#8221;.


1- US and Polish troops continue to drill for war against Russia.

2- Brainwashed Poles protest Putin, who, like Hitler, has never threatened them in any way.

3- Polish President Komorowski plays the modern day role of Smigly to Obama's Roosevelt.


1- Poland to accept US missiles on its soil, eh? Smart move Poland. Smigly-Rydz would be proud.

2- Hitler and Putin - two dynamic leaders who refused to submit to The New World Order, what Putin calls 'The Unipolar World'

http://www.tomatobubble.com/smigly_rydz.html

 

Wow all you did was copy an entire article.
Tell me something do you have any of your own opinions or are you just regurgitating something you found on the internet one day and now believe to be the absolute truth?
Or maybe you're the author?

If this alleged proof is to be believed then it fails completely and utterly to prove the existence of some bizarre international Zionist conspiracy in which the governments of three nations are the instigators.
This is fantastical at best.

So far there hasn't been anything that you've correct about.

 

Lol, you wanted proof but now you start to complain that I posted a very valuable and higly detailed article here?
Did you even read it? I guess not...

Are you here to learn something or are you just trolling? Because if you want to learn you should put your bias aside and look at matters from different perspectives in order to come to the right conclusion. However, you look from 1 perspective only.

Anyway, you should look up more into who really run the world today, as it was nothing different back then.

Hitler pointed this elite clique out in one of his speeches:

[video=youtube;KcQu7qtm2PA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcQu7qtm2PA[/video]

Germany freed itself from the international usury banking system, which enslaves the world by drowning it in debt, and decided to go their own way.
However, Germany then got set up for destruction by these elites as this was a massive threat to their system.

 

No you didn't what you posted was garbage.

Unfortunately I did.

What perspective is that then?

There's a conspiracy section for that stuff. What we're doing here is discussing history not fairy tales.

 

O, so maybe you could point out what exactly is garbage about it?

You only look at the war from allied perspective, not a single thing from the AXIS perspective.

A story has 2 sides you have to listen to in order to come to the right conclusion.

 

All of it. Its a great example of obscure, modern propaganda which appeals to those who seem to suffer from Occams Razor

You don't know that.

Wow just two sides. What a well read gentleman you are.




Is this a serious question?

 

Exactly as I had expected, you just sweep aside any evidence which proves you the contrary as you are completely biased.

Yes I do, because you only post post-war allied propaganda.

Yes, the story has 2 sides: 1. from allied (the victors which have written the history) perspective which we hear now for 75 years and 2. the story from AXIS perspective.

We are living in 2016 now with the internet at hand.

If you haven't found out by now that there really is a massive conspiracy going on by elite globalist bankers who want to dominate the world, well... then you must be a real MSM gullible person.

However, it's not too late yet, so you might want to look up what "New World Order" means.

 

Its not evidence. There is no reasonable nor logical person in the world that can believe it to be anything other than the misconstrued ramblings of someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

Ok. Show me one bit of so called allied propaganda

Haha. God almighty

The internet is the wild west; you can find anything you want including stories which appeal to your own biases.

More absurdities. So there's a conspiracy going on which has involved many generations of people who work at banks and who are apparently so powerful that its taken them at least 75 years to run to world and somehow they've been able to keep it secret for all this time.

I have no idea as to what that means. Is English your native language?

Yes unfortunately I do and its a fantasy. Interestingly enough I've found that most people that do believe in this stuff tend to quite removed from society.

 

Indeed, on the internet are lots of stories, but there is only ONE truth, not several.

However I think I'll stop the debate here, because you ridicule and sweep aside any evidence which proves you the contrary anyway.

Remember tho, that it was the mad Polish dictator Edward Smigly-Rydz who flatout refused any negotiations with the Germans as he got too bold and bigmouthed as he tought the UK and France would back him up. When Poland was invaded, they didn't do anything about it as they have only used Poland as a puppet in order to instigate war with Germany.

Poland was just used in an extremely dirty geopolitical game and got, just like Germany, destroyed because of it.

If Smigly would just have negotiated with Germany about Danzig and a highway connection to East-Prussia, there would have been no WW II and Poland wouldn't have become communist for the following 50 years and still suffering the consequences of it.

 

It is quite possible. I talked about this here.

 

Sorry Mr. Triarius, maybe I did not understand something, but could you explain what the purpose had these " the UK, France + Zionist powers"?

For what purpose they gave the Poland to Hitler in 1939?

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It's all written here: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=470839&page=26&p=1066896727#post1066896727

 

It says here that they ( " the UK, France + Zionist powers")would like to see Russia attacked Germany.

Why do they need it?
It does not say.

 

They gave to Hitler the Czechs (and the whole Czech resource) They strengthened Hitler (Hitler denounced Poland by the Czech's tanks)

They gave to Hitler Polands ....and what for ?
..... and all this to Stalin had attacked Hitler ?

Your version is very strange. I would even say - it is a nonsense.

 

I stay out of this discussion here mostly ... but here I have to go in by exception because wrong!

At Poland invasion the Skoda tanks called in Germany Panzer 35(t) and Panzer 38(t) played no rule!

At this time they were not really in the inventory of the German tank division of this time. When CSR felt to Germany in March 1939, the 35(t) had entered service in CSR Army in small numbers and the 38(t) even not at all!
The main reason why both tanks entered service in German tank divisions was the lack of Panzer III models and so they filled up this lack in at least 3 Tank divisions (of one was commanded by Erwin Rommel) in front of the invasion of West Europe in May 1940. Here they played a major rule and preformed also very well.
But later in Russia, these tanks were helpless ducks when they had to fight T-34 and KV-1 tanks ... but even then the 38(t) become the platform for the successful tank hunter "Hetzer"