The Remorseful: Are right-wingers who spread anti-vaxer propaganda shooting themselves in the foot?

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  1. Joe knows

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    I’m a vaccinated Republican. I know they’re experimental because I read the disclaimer. I know they’re possibly (I said possibly not definitely) life threatening. There are reasons to be concerned about the vaccine like blot clot issues. If you are prone to these they can sway your take on them. And the vaccine has killed people. 3 to be exact. Very very very small amount but they are currently reviewing other cases that may have caused death. The three were due to blood clots.

    I’m vaccinated so I’m not advocating for not vaccinating yourself. But I think people should make their own decisions for themselves. They can decide what is worth the risk COVID/Vaccine. I support them either way. It’s 100% in their hands as it should be. And I wish them well with whatever choice they take.
     
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    And they’re refusing to get vaccinated. This whole thing is a joke.
     
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    It's respectful to give others the same space to excersize their freedoms. Not selfish at all.
     
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    Blue areas in Florida are getting pounded by the delta variant. Not many are dying though.
    I thought only red areas weren’t getting the vaccine. Maybe it doesn’t work.


    If the vaccine doesn’t work... WHY GET IT NOW?
     
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    Leftists don’t do the whole freedom thing.
     
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    The people who abort millions of lives, who ignore thousands of murders by their special people, who want to depopulate the planet, suddenly care about saving the lives of people who will ultimate be murdered by global warming.
     
  7. Golem

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    This is NOT about YOU! Nor is it about anti-vax propaganda that you write here. This is about the people who get infected because they read the false propaganda that you help spread .... and the people THEY infect and die or end up in ICU... and those who THEY infect and die or end up in the ICU...

    Look... obviously you have bought into all the anti-vaxer propaganda. But that's not what this thread is about.

    There are thread that explain to you the basics about Covid and the vaccines. And you are obviously in deep deep need of reading them. But this is not it. This one is for people who actually understand the fundamentals.

    Yes you are. The fact that you don't understand that it's what you do doesn't make it less so.
     
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    And all the propaganda about the vaccine was put out there by Dems before the election. Leave it to dems to bitch about their buzzards coming home to roost.
     
  9. Joe knows

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    What about my quote was false
     
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    Claiming that it's about some sort of made-up "right" to infect others with a deadly disease, and simply ignoring the REAL right of those people to live is.... being "selfish" is too soft a word, to tell you the truth. But the more appropriate word would probably get me in trouble with the mods.
     
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    I am the caretaker for my 95 year old mother. Months ago we both tested positive for COVID-19. Neither one of us showed any symptoms....we both were asymptomatic. Before being tested positive for COVID, I had worn the stupid mask while out in public. Lot of good the mask did for me, eh. My mother had never left the house. I have zero faith in believing masks prevent one from getting COVID. My mother and I have since been fully vaccinated, not that we ever needed to since we were both asymptomatic from the virus and both in great physical shape to begin with.

    In addressing the ridiculous OP statement that right-wingers spread anti vaxer propaganda is just plain absurd. People are going to do their own thing without having a leftist totalitarian government interfering and controlling their lives. You want to get the vaccine or not...its your decision only. More people are dying from the flu and from murder in democrat led cities then they are from COVID. Death rates are going way down with very few deaths because some 80% of people over the age of 65 are already vaccinated, and most of those dying from COVID have underlying conditions such as COPD or are suffering from obesity et al. So I say the OP should take his fear mongering and apply it to the thousands of illegals (many having COVID) that are flowing though biden's unprotected southern border, and thus spreading their virus throughout the land.
     
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    All of it. Every word you wrote that had to do with vaccines was pure propaganda.

    I mean... being concerned about blood clots, for example, because THREE people... out of hundreds of millions of doses, developed blood clots MAYBE because of the vaccines. How is that not pure propaganda?

    Anyway, as I said, that is not what this thread is about.
     
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  13. Joe knows

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    Oh this is going to be fun…


    “How many people have died after getting a vaccine?

    Between December 2020 and July 19th, 2021, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018% of doses) among people who got a vaccine, but this does not mean the vaccine caused these deaths. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blood clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blood clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented.”

    That’s right… three deaths like I stated earlier and more under review

    https://covid-101.org/science/how-many-people-have-died-from-the-vaccine-in-the-u-s/
     

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    Let’s look at the disclaimer
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  15. Joe knows

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    So again… what was I spewing propaganda about? It was all factual
     
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    A lot of people died after getting vaccinated. A guy in my city got run over by a truck and died coming out of CVS right after he got his shot.

    Did you say "appear"? Do you know how many people definitely (not "appeared") died of blood clots because they didn't get the vaccine? Over 3000 in the last week alone! That's more deaths than on 9-11. And rising every day. But this thread is about people who went to ICU because they didn't get their shot. Over 7 thousand just yesterday. Many of these will die.

    So don't give me this "appear" nonsense. It's the anti-vaxer PROPAGANDA that gets more people killed
     
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    From the OP
    From the OP

    come again…..
     
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    Pretty sure I already stated three but if you must ask again; THREE!

    one was a beautiful woman from my state
     
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    What about it?
     
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    I don't know what poster you're talking too, thankfully (my Ignore list is long), but hey, facts don't matter to these people, so, no, he/she wouldn't be swayed by what I posted.
    And it's not just a new high in cases... it's the highest EVER, since the start of the pandemic. That's what DeSantis' policies are unleashing on Floridians and they still love him. Darwin Award recipients and candidates, all of them.

    Yes, they were crucifying Cuomo (and I was too, because I'm not partisan) but in their opinion DeSantis' failures are just peachy... these people are just impossible, in their hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance...
     
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    What I posted WAS NOT propaganda. It all is in factual claims.
     
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    If it’s not FDA approved it’s obviously experimental. You claimed my claims are propaganda and they’re not!!!
     
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    How many beautiful women from your state died of blood clots because they DIDN'T take the vaccine?

    How many are in the ICU wishing they would have taken the vaccine? Because this is what this thread is about: the remorseful. And I am pretty sure (having explained my reasoning on the OP) that the majority of those are (or were) Republicans. And that it was their being Republican had to do with their choice not to get the shot.
     
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    Boy that's a lot to read! Don't think I'll bother. The vaccine was under design back in the 80's. The Trump Administration got it altogether and pushed it through in "Operation Warp Speed". Of course the leftists in charge will deny that to the end......HOWEVER they will NEVER be able to deny the first anti-vaxers were Sleepy Joe, Kamala Harris, and most all the leftist pundits at fake news! It was stated over and over in many ways they would not trust anything that Trump recommended!
    What a tangled web we weave when 1st practicing to deceive!
     
  25. Joe knows

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    Well that wouldn’t be factual would it. That would be a presumptive claim at best.
     

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