The Republican party is the divider of America and Trump is their leader....

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  1. upside222

    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bigotry and hate? You mean like the left at UC Berkley? You mean like BLM that burned out Ferguson, MO?

    There's only about 6000 KKK members in the whole US? There are more gang members killing each other in Chicago than that! And you worry about the KKK?

    Fascism? You mean like the censorship of the left? The Brown Shirts of the left at Trump rallies and now in St Louis destroying property? You mean *that* fascism?

    Obama may say he's not a Muslim but his actions prove he won't act to eliminate radical Islamic terrorism. Instead he lets radical Islamic terrorists like ISIS establish a caliphate in Syria and Iraq.

    Bragging and doing are two different things. Something left has done for the last 70 years! Bragged about helping the common man while trampling them down with taxes and regulation!

    There were lots of white players kneeling with the black players. Only someone who is blind, like a leftist racist, would only see the black players.

    And trickle-down? As those workers in China whose lives have been made better by American companies creating jobs there how well trickle-down works! Trickle-down *does* work, the Marxist Democrats just won't let it work in America. They have used taxes and regulations for years to force the trickle-down overseas - and then blame it on the rich!
     
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    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    ^^^Trump koolaid abuser.^^^ Here's a clue...the three trillion dollars Bush gave to millionaires was just added onto the national debt, and destroyed the balanced budget. Bush's deregulation of banks and real estate destroyed the economy. Obama brought this country out of that ditch, in spite of the republican congress obstructionists. Now they want to do it all over again with Trump. They will fail.
     
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    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    Can't argue with the facts....
     
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    Don't blame the republican party for trump. Trump is not a republican. The republicans are a bunch of helpless idiots that don't know how to handle trump watching their careers go down the drain and not being able to do a damn thing about it.
     
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    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    Dems dug this country out of the Great Depression that the GOP caused. The dems created Social Security for the elderly, which the GOP has been trying to destroy ever since. The dems back unions what gave us workers rights, weekends, healthcare, decent wages, and holidays, which the republicans have been trying to destroy. The dems created aid to the poor and healthcare and education, all of which the cons are against.

    Trickle down has been exposed as code for "p*ss on the poor".
     
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    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    The GOP nominated his as their candidate. end of story.
     
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    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush's tax cuts generated enough jobs to cut the unemployment rate to under 5% while ALSO RAISING the labor force participation rate. The only way to do that is with a *good* labor market with *good* jobs and *good* pay! Clinton couldn't even raise the lfpr with the dot.com bubble! But Bush did it *after* the dot.com bubble collapsed!

    Bush didn't deregulate the banks, CLINTON did! Get your history straight!

    And the housing bubble was completely and totally a creation of the Marxist Democrats starting with Jimmy Carter and continuing through Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd.

    Obama didn't bring *anyone* out of the ditch. He oversaw the worst labor force participation rate since the 70's. And he never got it to recover! Food stamp usage and poverty spiked under Obama and he never engineered a recovery.

    Again, get your history straight. Marxist Democrat talking point lies are *NOT* history.
     
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    upside222 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FDR and the Dems didn't get us out of the Great Depression. Their policies ensured the Great Depression would continue for more than 15 years. It wasn't until WWII that the Great Depression ended.

    SS is failing and the Marxist Dems refuse to fix it. They are going to let it die just like they did Soc. Sec. Disability Insurance. The *GOP* had to save SSDI!

    The Dem's have let union participation die since the 50's. The unions have finally had enough. They wouldn't even supply campaign workers for Hillary in 2016!

    Healthcare? You mean the ACA which is dying? It is estimated that 10M middle class will drop Obamacare next year because of the costs for the insurance and the high deductibles and co-pays. Meaning its death spiral will continue. AND THE MARXIST DEMS HAVE NO PLAN TO FIX IT!

    Education? You mean the education system that has crippled American test results for the past 25 years?

    Aid to the poor? You mean the 50% of households that get government assistance of some kind - a symptom of a failing society?

    People are *tired*, just plain wore out, over the promises of the Marxist Democrats that never come true. Just like the promises of Chavez and Maduro to the people of Venezuela! That's why Hillary lost. That's why the Marxist Dems have lost 1000 elected positions nationwide over the past decade.

    And you are *proud* of that?

    Pathetic!
     
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    True that. I'm sure they've regretted their mistake ever since.
     
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    So you judge them without knowing anything about them. Good rightie. And BTW, my post said nothing about watching Oprah or about anyone who watches Oprah. I looked in on 60 Minutes just in time to see the focus group. And she is far more successful than you are. She's a multi-millionaire. You're a poster on a forum.


    Of course I know that nothing has been passed. But it's pretty telling that you lack interest in what's being proposed and brought up for a vote, even though it shows exactly what the Republicans are up to. Seems you just don't want to admit what they're up to. You would rather pretend there's nothing there.


    Here. I'll give you a chance to think for yourself. Let's see if you're capable. Go find me a quote of mine from any post that tells you I quoted Oprah on anything. You won't because you can't, and because it is obvious that what you really want most is to attack, belittle, insult, and show contempt for anyone with whom you can't debate/discuss honestly about any issue. It's obviously your fall-back position and your alternative to telling the truth.
     
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    If it makes you happy, none of those things you talk of are liberal values. Not unless you think social liberals have anything to do with liberal values. Social liberals are just communists on training wheels, and giving communists a bad name doesn't require anything more than a brief glance at a 20th century history book. Pol pot, Mao, Stalin, Castro, Hitler, Mussolini... all communists of one stripe or another, and all very evil leaders of evil governments.

    Fascist? No son, those were commies, just like democrats. You can't rewrite history by making up your own definitions.
     
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    You did a fine job of making his point.

    You tacitly endorsed birtherism, and the falsely accused the man who killed Bin Laden and who set the plan in motion to destroy ISIS of not fighting terrorism,.

    You excused the avalanche of white resentment and the revival of open bigotry in teh public common (see NFL BS "issue" as case in point), by trying to pretend that it was limited to the KKK.

    You adopted the white racist claim that "taking the knee" is about race (it wasn't until Trump made it), when it is really about the expectation that everyone should be treated the same.

    You falsely claimed that Ferguson was "burned out"

    And since you endorse Trump, you obviously endorse the "trickle down" that the GOP has been feeding you for thirty plus years, and that Trump plans to feed you again by telling you that a big tax cuts for corporate American and Wall Street is going to get you a high paid union job with out the union (what kind of sucker falls for nonsense like that? Trumpsters ,of course!)
     
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    Social Security, public education, unions, and equal rights are all liberal values.

    Every single one of them.

    Therefore, your rant makes no sense at all.

    It is getting really wierd watching Trumpster sputter and yell the way you all do. You're getting more and more deranged every dayl
     
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    Liberals made liberal a dirty word

    So the left had to rebrand as progrgessives instead

    But that wont fool the public for long
     
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    It's just that the fact that Trump is gross and vulgar is sort of a given at this point.

    Trumpsters find it endearing........
     
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    Social Security isn't failing. You can't promote fear with lies.
     
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    Wow! That was so idiotic one hardly knows where to start.

    The Depression lasted 15 years? Who knew!

    SS is not falling apart. It is solvent into the early 2040's, dispite the drumbeat your hear shouted at you out of your AM radio. It could be easily "fixed" by simply removing the cap on the amount of earnings subject to the SS tax and raising the retirement age gradually by couple of years.

    The ACA expanded the availability of health care to millions, and you guys want to take that back.

    Education. I guess since you think the Depresssion lasted 15 years, you got a great one.

    When were political parties responsible for union membership?

    You wouldnt' know Marxism is Karl Marx bought you a drink. It's just a label folks like you throw around as a substitute for knowing anything or thinking.
     
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    Fascism-(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism,regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

    Communism-a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.

    democratic-The definition of democratic is an attitude or a system that treats everyone equally.

    liberal-favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

    republican-An individual who believes that the white male Christian God should be the only object of worship on the planet, that power and wealth should remain in the hands of 1% of the world's population while the remaining 99% starve, that health care should be privatized so the poor can't afford basic medication, that a rape victim living on welfare should be forced to care for a baby she didn't even ask for, and that America is the only real country on Earth while all those other countries they read about are just fakes invented by communists.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=republican
     
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    republican-An individual who believes that the white male Christian God should be the only object of worship on the planet, that power and wealth should remain in the hands of 1% of the world's population while the remaining 99% starve, that health care should be privatized so the poor can't afford basic medication, that a rape victim living on welfare should be forced to care for a baby she didn't even ask for, and that America is the only real country on Earth while all those other countries they read about are just fakes invented by communists.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=republican

    Oh look, Trump praises Putin and the commies!

    Saying Liberals made "liberal" a dirty word, is like saying that you love communism.

    If you're going to lie, make it believable.
     
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    No, you just made *MY* point for me. I said nothing about where Obama was born. I only pointed out where his sympathies lie based on his actions!

    Obama also killed two American citizens, one a child, who had not been convicted of anything. So what? The issue isn't the killing of individuals, it is who let ISIS be created and who then refused to wipe them out! Trump has done more to defeat ISIS in seven months than Obama did in eight years. Actions mean something!

    Open bigotry? You mean the football fans booing the kneeling players? The captive audience also gets to display their displeasure by using their freedom of speech also!

    Taking the knee *is* about race. You don't remember Kapernick wearing socks depicting the police as pigs? What was that if it wasn't about race?

    My son lives near there. Much of the business area of Ferguson *WAS* burned out. Your willful ignorance is *NOT* a survival trait.

    Trickle-down DOES work. Just ask any Chinese worker that has benefited from the capital investment American companies have made there! It isn't Trump's fault that the Marxist Democrats forced the trickle-down overseas with their taxes and regulations. The private unions DIED under the 40 years of Marxist Democrat rule in the House of Representatives before Newt Gingrich broke their hold. There *is* a reason why many of the unions refused to help the Hillary campaign. They *know* they've been abandoned by the Marxist Democrats. It's going to be a long time before they move back to the Marxist Democrats!
     
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    Willful ignorance is *NOT* a survival trait!

    From the SS Trustee Report for 2017: "The Trustees project that the combined trust funds will be depleted in 2034, the same year projected in last year's report."

    I would also note that the Trustee Report says: "Social Security and Medicare together accounted for 42 percent of Federal program expenditures in fiscal year 2016. " That's going to continue to go up as more baby-boomers start taking SS and Medicare!

    It goes on to say: "Thereafter, scheduled tax income is projected to be sufficient to pay about three-quarters of scheduled benefits through the end of the projection period in 2091."

    Of course the Marxist Democrats are happy to see SS beneficiaries take a 25% cut in benefits. With their willing partners in the lamestreammedia they will blame it on the GOP for not having forced the Marxist Democrats into fixing SS!
     
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    There you go again, demonizing democrats as "Marxist"....You know as well as the rest of us, that democrats are democratic, not Marxist. They are a contradiction in terms. This is just more fascist propaganda. Another attempt at demonizing liberal progressives.
     
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    When you celebrate and preach class warfare, redistribution of wealth, and central planning of the economy then you *ARE* a Marxist. And this is *all* the Democrats know today. These three things are so interwoven in the Democrat Party Platform they won't ever be removed. The entire platform would have to be rewritten from the ground up!

    You don't seem to have *any* grasp of Marxism. The first phase of Marxism *is* fascism! The three phases of Marxism are:
    1. fascism - govt control of business and capital
    2. socialism - govt ownership of business and capital
    3. communism - collective ownership of business and capital

    Each phase is meant to ease the transition into the next. The Marxist Democrats have seized control of the energy sector (remember "killing coal), the health insurance sector, and the health care sector plus they tried to take over the internet sector with the Net Neutrality regulations. They are now trying to *own* the health insurance and health care sectors through the single payer program!

    Ever read "1984". Thinking the Democrats of today are actually Democrats is a perfect example of Orwell's doublethink!
     
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    Again, another attempt at false propaganda, to demonize the opposition. Really that's all you got. There is not truth to democrats being Marxist at all. Democracy and Marxism are two totally different ideologies. But republicans continue to try to smear those that care about the people of this country, in order to promote the rich and corporations taking all the wealth of America.
     
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    You have a very warped

    Nowhere in the world are 99% of the people starving

    And in America where republicans are no one is starving

    In part that is due to the wipe-every-nose liberal welfare state that allows healthy adults to live without working

    But in the land of plenty anyone who is willing to work can feed themselves without government charity
     
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