The Republican Party's Final Humiliation

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  1. Heartburn

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    What's your problem. Democrats delayed Trumps Presidency for four years. And he still managed to accomplish an enviable list. Democrats hated his coming, his median, and his going. Now you want him to kiss your hand upon his departure? But hey, look on the bright side. If he doesn't send you a birthday card, you can be madder still.
     
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    Enviable list? He had some wins, but those are far outweighed by his disasters and the gigantic clustermuck he has left in his wake. And in typical MAGA form you whine about how he was the victim of evil dems. Just can't get out of whining and grievance and blame shifting.

    As for Donnie Peachs, the script has flipped and for the rest of his life he will be the gift that keeps on giving for hundreds of millions. He is in a world of hurt and I for one am going to enjoy every cut for repentence must come before forgiveness and we all know this narcissistic sociopath doesn't have it in him. Mean of me, eh? this is me revelling in this turn of the kharmic wheel.
     
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    How stupid. Democrats never filled with hate for Trump? I'm 62 years old and have never seen a president so hated.
     
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    That's one of the issues. There are more.
     
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    Well, I guess if you want to discount the rise in wages, the reduction of household debt, the rise in valuation of housing, increased investment opportunities and ROI, the increase in employment, growth of businesses, the number of new business start ups as 'losses', then your kit is full. Otherwise, the rest of us will just have to grin and bear the 4 years of best personal profit and gain we've had in the last two decades....
     
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    Well Donald went to court around 60 times in a row, and even his own appointed judges said nope.
    HAHA!
     
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    Is anyone “officially” affiliated with ANTIFA?
     
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    AFAIK they are as the Gmt. has described them, unknowns. they can't legitimately be blamed for a thing without IDs and proof of intent.
     
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    Oh no, I totally agree that Trump was the most hated president like ever. I'm 67 and no one EVER said things about a president that they say about Donnie Peachs, MAGA Mob Boss.

    Course, no president embraced racist nazi white nationalists or batshit crazy QAnon conspiracy theories, lie to the people over 20,000 times, kidnapped and institutionalized 500 children, called a national health crisis that has killed 400k americans and counting a partisan hoax, and to top it all off instigated an insurrection that descrated the Capitol and killed 5 people based on a BIG LIE because his in extreme narcissism and sociopathy, he can't believe he's a LOSER.

    never has there been a president where it was all about him, who refused to take responsiblity for anything, blamed everyone else for his failures, and abused his position while bullying ordinary citizens.

    So perhaps before complaining about the effect you might want to examine the cause of it and then assess how much is justified.
     
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    He is the first president since the great depression to leave office with less american working than when he took office.
    Three of the top four highest trade deficits occured during his administration. Trade wars are easy to win.
    National debt increased by $7.6TRILLION in four years.
    Stock market gains were a full point less than Obama's

    household debt? check your numbers. consumer debt is at record levels as is mortgage debt and if not for the grace of microscopic interest rates.....

    You must be aware of the fact that tens of millions of americans are facing eviction and foreclosure inthe coming months. You must be aware of the 15 million americans who lost their health care or the million a month average unemployment claims. Sing the praises of the past and ignore the incompetence of the MAGA Lord who created this gigantic existential clustermuck until you can start smugly blaming the senile pedophilic Biden for it all.
     
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    Okeedokee.
     
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    he deserved to be hated by far more than just all of NYC long before he pooped on the Oval Office carpet. he's the worst thing ever.
     
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    Your using the economic/employment conditions caused by the pandemic as a measuring stick is disingenuous at best, and I am being exceedingly polite. Using the stock market, which is actually not a reflection of the economy, is also disingenuous.

    You need to check your numbers on household debt. Household Debt Service Payments as a Percent of Disposable Personal Income (TDSP) | FRED | St. Louis Fed

    You also fail to take into account the unemployment numbers prior to the pandemic, wage increases, job growth, business growth, and startup business growth.

    And why are people facing eviction? Lockdowns, at the whim of Governors. People who lost their jobs, received unemployment plus an extra $300 a week per person, and stimulus money on top of it. Since they were not paying their rent/mortgages with it (or they wouldn't be facing eviction) then exactly what were they using it for?

    Trump, for all his flaws, did not create the Charlie Foxtrot, the pandemic did. The Governors who chose to play overlord and shut down businesses that didn't need to be shut down, and for the extended times they shut them down, exacerbated it. Until you willingly understand all the factors, rather than put on blinders because someone you dislike was POTUS, then maybe it will all make a little more sense for you.

    And if you bothered to pay attention to whom you are addressing a post, perhaps you might also drop the hyperbolic claptrap.
     
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    The Republican fell into the spell of Donald Trump in the four years that he was president. Making America Great was just a hoax and that's all.
     
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    I'm using the whole of his administrations record as a measuring stick. You know the one that every other presidential administration is judged on.

    but if you want to "qualify" his administrations economic performance, then:

    Yes household debt service ratio decreased, but as you can see benefits rather dramatically from the economic impact of the pandemic.
    https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/housedebt/default.htm

    Trump didn't create the pandemic, he just completely botched the response and downloaded responsibility to each individual state instead of creating a coordinated national response. Warp Speed was a success but everything else was a disaster.

    That you can't understand why there is an economic crisis with tens of millions facing evictions and foreclosures on the horizon because of past government largesse is staggering in its implications.

    as for addressing the OP, this is all part and parcel since we are talking about republican humiliation.
     
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    Your statement is a bit tangled, and doesn't match the link you provided.

    There no, Trump didn't 'botch the response', each state had to address the pandemic at it's own level. As an example, New York and Texas would not have been using the same restrictions at the same time, and needed to apply them as was appropriate, besides being a small thing called the Constitution that provides only certain powers to the Federal Government, and the rest to the States.

    Please quote me where I said anything of a sort that the evictions or foreclosures wasn't a problem that needs addressing? Assumptions like that are the ilk of what has cause untold problems for those who use them.

    I really can't say if Republicans are 'humiliated' or not. I've been an Independent for about 42 years.... people, not parties. Try it sometime.
     
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    Wisconsin Republicans have blocked the governor at every step on Covid mandates

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-covid-response-n1255684?cid=eml_nbn_20210127


    Being so obstructionist is not helping the Rep Party at all. Neither is allowing Trump to still control them.

    They are not the GOP any more. They are some bastardized version of Trump R and internally disjointed . Add The Green women into the mix and crazy conspiracy theories are influencing them too. Q Anon is represented by Green. It is loony tunes times. The Rep's have humiliate themselves a lot of times. but currently their whole fiber is lacking credibility. ..They have entered some alternate reality induced by Donny the dysfunctional .

    They don't have the guts to hold Trump accountable. ......... as they are afraid of him. Just like in some authoritarian third world nation.

    The party of "values"??........... Just what type of 'values" are they representing??
     
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    Hadn't you noticed? Over the past 4 years, reality is what the Left tells us it is. Trump won this election and if your Party wanted to remove the doubt of tens of millions they'd have gladly allowed investigations and witnesses and forensics on the Dominion machines. That they refused any of that only proves they know they cheated. Believe as you wish but you can save your breath trotting that lame-ass stuff out here.
     
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    The Republican party is no longer a political party. In its stead is a group of morons who pander to idiots, conspiracy theorists, and seditionists.
     
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    Spot on!!!........and obstructive to getting anything done in the current multilevel crisis. One could sa y that they are dangerous. ...given that conspirator theories are accepted over FACTS and science. POWER is the name of their game. all this is a prescription for a big fall. (lower than they are now)
     
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    Last time I checked a political party has a platform to politic on. Seems today's GOP ditched the platform for Donnie Peachs fat arse.
     
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    Will there be another political party that will replace the Republicans? It's like Donald Trump giving every Republican a black eye.
     

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