The Republican Party's Final Humiliation

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there has to be a home for true plain decent conservatives and middle of the roaders. The fringe cannot rule.
     
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    At this point, the "fringe" (left, right, and otherwise) seems to be the only part of the population that realizes how corrupt our society is. The GOP and Democrats are an illusion of choice.
     
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    I think they’ll remain as a major party, but, as is often the case around the world, they will need to do some serious in-house disinfecting. They need to rid themselves of the crazies.
     
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    Congressional Republicans have a real dilemma on their hands: What to do about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
    Less than a month after being sworn into office, the ultra-right, conspiracy-spouting congresswoman from northwest Georgia has turned what should have been a GOP celebration over congressional gains in the Nov. 3 election into how to address the unapologetically outspoken freshman's past controversial remarks.
    Do they formally reprimand her or strip her of committee assignments – as they did two years ago with Steve King of Iowa after he made comments about white nationalism. Or do they continue to stay silent on the controversy – hoping it dies down. Either choice risks alienating parts of their caucus.
    Republicans remain mostly quiet on Marjorie Taylor Greene, whose remarks have put GOP in a bind (msn.com)

    It seems like the GOP have got their problems to deal with and it loks like they don't know what to do. I just hope they can come up with something to deal with it. Greene may have been a Trump supporter. There are plenty of them out there.
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    Former first lady, NY Senator, Secratary of state, and 2016 Presidential candidate Hilary Clinton said that
    "This woman should be on a watch list. Not in Congress,"

     
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    This country needs a two major party system with the Republicans and Democrats. Like Major League Baseball needs the National and American League to exist.
    Democrats were here before the Republicans and that's a fact.
     
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    The Dems are the ones currently responsible for any hold-up in the appointment process -- too busy with the Trump impeachment clown show...

    National Security will carry on just fine until new ones are selected.

    Really bad argument.
     
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    There are various things which could result in jail time for the former President (taxes, bank fraud, obstruction of justice, insurrection, etc.) If he's convicted and jailed, let's see how many Republicans are still going to consider him as the leader of the Party.
     
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    wave the crazy flag! lol
     
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    The GOP has morphed into a a party of conspiracy theories, disinformation , misinformation and blatant lies. (all the trademarks of Trumpian mindset) Loudmouth conspiracy supporter Green, seems to be defining the "party " now. As long as "dirty Donnie" overshadows the GOP........ not much will improve. It is now a soap opera........that hopes to keep the attention away from Bidens' efforts......and is helping the US sink even furthers into an undefined cesspool of dysfunction. The future??........very uncertain. & concerning.

    Now...if the GOP wants to be a party defined by misinformation etc.........then it should collectively make those objectives clear and part of its core platform.
     
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    Unfortunately this "realization" comes wrapped in a blanket of bullshit corrupt ideologies itself.

    Illusions of choice? Much like the RAWA wet dreams of the far right, is that what you are suggesting?
     
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    Hillary is right. Green is a nut case......at best and potentially dangerous ..She is pals with Trump and that makes her even more dangerous.
     
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    The so called "fringe" includes a lot of crazys .....as in mentally dysfunctional... and that is concerning. Not sure they are a credible judge of where society is at the moment.
     
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    So, you see it as a valid matter of choices when both parties support invading various countries for profit and bailing out corporations? You see it as a valid choice when both parties expand the surveillance state every chance they get?
     
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    Mental illness comes in many forms. The form most common among the elites is sociopathy. You can believe the narratives the elites feed you, but it's impossible to maintain faith in them if you ever choose to critically think.
     
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    Misinformation has been a prominent part of American mainstream media ever since Operation Mockingbird. The greatest purveyor of misinformation is the government itself.

    But you don't have to take my word for it. A lot of credible journalists can point this out. Glenn Greenwald is a good example. It is mostly foreign sources and Americans living abroad who most clearly see this, because they aren't subject to the propaganda of our federal government as much.
     
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    This country needs more than 1 party period. We just have the illusion of 2.

    Plenty of other nations have a parliamentary system that has 3 or more viable parties to vote for. Coalition governments develop from this structure, which is much more functional than the ruse we engage in.
     
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    I can't believe someone could still believe this bs after trump.

    Hillary was a typical corrupt politician. Trump is a monster. I said that from the start and now he has proven it in spades. You don't see liberals trying to execute members of Congress under the leadership of their president.

    I was a Republican for half of my adult life - now Independent. I often voted for people from either party. But I will NEVER vote for another Republican again.
     
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    Trump wasn't a monster. He was just very naive. He made the mistake of assuming that populism would ever work in a thoroughly corrupted society.

    The monster is the system itself, particularly the media. This doesn't make Trump some great guy either. He had plenty of flaws. But I do have to thank him for inadvertently exposing what the federal government actually is.
     
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    Fair enough. I'm not going to vote at all ever again. It's a joke.
     
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    No I don't see it that way at all. I'm not sure what you consider a "valid" choice let alone what you meant by "illusion of choice".

    I am certainly not naïve wrt causes and motivations for war, in any and all of its myriad forms. Are they valid? to the people making the decision to wage war, they usually seem to be and usually the majority of the populace buys into that decision. Hell even the lebensraum justification was accepted as valid by the german people.
     
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    ^^^
    More unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    My beliefs are that Marjorie Taylor Greene should be locked up and so should Donald Trump and anyone else that stands by him.
     
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    Yes, you do seem to keep posting such. Are actually paying attention?


    Lack of platform in 2020[edit]
    In 2020, the Republican Party decided not to write a platform for that presidential election cycle,[121] instead simply expressing its support for Donald Trump's agenda[122] and criticizing "the media" for biased reporting.[123] This was cited by critics as an example of how the Republican Party "became a cult of personality".[124][125]

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/republican-party-keeping-2016-platform-2020

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53914829

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-f...020-republican-party-platform-letat-cest-moi/
     
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    My point is that the military industrial complex manipulates both parties. It's a serious enough issue that even Eisenhower talked about it in his final public address.

    So while there are minor differences between the parties on social issues, a lot of the most important issues create an illusion of choice for voters, because, no matter which party you support, the decision is bipartisan. So, if you are an anti-war voter, you don't have a major party to represent you. If you are against the expansion of the surveillance state and want to repeal the Patriot Act, you don't have a party to support either.
     

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