The rights of the minority are not subject to a popular vote...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Troianii, May 9, 2013.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Have you seen what many Republicans are doing to voters?

    Even so, I'm all for a fair system where 1 vote = 1 vote.
     
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    What are Republicans DOING to voters? :roll: Sure you agree with "1 vote = 1 vote" and then you must be in favor of FORCING everyone to obey Democrat mandates if they win. You can't believe in unalienable Individual Liberty and vote for Democrats as the two are mutually exclusive. :shock:
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say anything about "God".

    Furthermore, the Supreme Court has ruled that certain rights, the right to keep and bear arms being one, do not rely on the existence of a specific law in order to exist. How do you reconcile that nifty little Catch-22 contained in your position? You say that rights are granted by law...yet "the law" says that they are not.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you talking about? Johnny didn't say anything about Republicans and he was responding to me and I didn't say anything about Republicans and I am certainly not one. Think before you post.

    Quite frankly, Johnny's notion that rights are granted by the government and are not inherent to humankind is quite in line with GOP thinking.
     
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    What on God's Green Earth are you talking about? :blankstare:

    Democrats, not Republicans, but Democrats don't believe in unalienable Individual Rights. What such RIGHT have Republicans violated? Perhaps the most important of unalienable Individual RIGHTS is the RIGHT of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. EVERY DEMOCRATE mandate denies this unalienable RIGHT! :omfg:
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    Well, someone did. I suppose I responded because too many have thrown 'religion' up as an excuse to oppress others, too many times (IMO).

    Yet, there is NO interpretation which determines or insists that new or altered laws cannot be implemented and enforced. And that, is exactly why people are arguing (legally) today. Nothing is so written in stone, that the legal definitions of the same cannot change or evolve over time. Most reasonable people realize that is true.

    Nothing in my words to deceive or trick anyone; we either have the best for this society or we do not. What those are WILL almost always be 'debatable'.

    I say, rights are literally DEFINED BY LAW. And as much as I know the 'lawyer' types play with 'words'... the bottom line is this:

    If there is no LAW backing ones right to some action, inaction or to possess a certain 'thing'... then as much as we'd ALL like to stand there and claim some divine or universal "right"... it ain't there. At the very least, any individual or group of the same, could RUN OVER another by making the same divine of universal claim.

    Philosophically I agree with and understand where you are coming from; but down where the rubber meets the road in everyday society... our "right" to virtually anything and everything is define by some 'law' or 'contract'. That is, it is written down and meant to be honored accordingly.
     
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    I have to agree with you, that I'm NOT talking about only the GOP here (and I haven't modeled my commentary after any of their particular talking points or agendas).
     
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    If you have to ASK... (Sign.) :(
     
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    See, this is my point. I go on, and on, typing examples and citing those example (click on this, "Google that). People often say "Yes, but the Republicans are JUST as bad." :roll: I say "nope, the Republicans never threatened the Supreme Court so they would stop ruling Republicans legislation unconstitutional." I ask YOU for examples or what YOU talking about and you write "If you have to ASK... (Sign.)" showing you have no examples of "What are Republicans DOING to voters?..." You are simply SQUAWKING Democrat Propaganda. :sad:
     
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    The GOP's rhetoric may support inalienable individual rights but their actions do the exact opposite. I have no use for empty rhetoric, only actions are meaningful.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your reference still doesn't make sense since I'm advocating greater freedom whereas you're the one that is promoting the curtailment of rights, aka oppression.


    Then you have no rights to speak of, only privileges granted by your betters.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    We need to disagree and be done. I've explained it enough. I'm sure we will hold to our personal views overall.

    Peace.
     
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    Rights are granted to those who can most afford the price tag. I AM pretty sure that's what HE thinks too. I'm also sure the GOP advocates the "rights only to the highest bidder" as well.
     
  14. tomfoo13ry

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    BS. You clearly don't know what rights are...they cannot be granted by definition.
     

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